1 00:00:03,050 --> 00:00:02,300 and it hits me oh my gosh this is that 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:03,060 triangle 3 00:00:05,269 --> 00:00:04,170 you know there's explanation for 4 00:00:07,220 --> 00:00:05,279 everything that occurred in the 5 00:00:09,589 --> 00:00:07,230 Rendlesham forest incident that doesn't 6 00:00:13,100 --> 00:00:09,599 involve aliens at all it was completely 7 00:00:16,369 --> 00:00:13,110 silent it comes right over our head it's 8 00:00:17,930 --> 00:00:16,379 so classic flying-saucer really standing 9 00:00:19,490 --> 00:00:17,940 in the clearing he turned over to my 10 00:00:21,030 --> 00:00:19,500 father and held his hand and he looked 11 00:00:24,580 --> 00:00:21,040 in his eyes and said we're not alone 12 00:00:30,710 --> 00:00:28,009 welcome to podcast UFO for our live show 13 00:00:32,060 --> 00:00:30,720 we're live every Wednesday at 8 p.m. 14 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:32,070 Eastern Standard Time 15 00:00:38,090 --> 00:00:33,690 please remember to visit 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00:01:28,630 --> 00:01:25,520 be on in a minute Alejandro Rojas is 31 00:01:31,230 --> 00:01:28,640 coming up with the UFO news I want to 32 00:01:33,999 --> 00:01:31,240 thank everyone that supports the show 33 00:01:35,410 --> 00:01:34,009 and if you can't watch if you can't 34 00:01:38,590 --> 00:01:35,420 support the show and you'd still like to 35 00:01:40,389 --> 00:01:38,600 listen to the whole two-hour show the 36 00:01:41,830 --> 00:01:40,399 first hour is always free but if you 37 00:01:43,899 --> 00:01:41,840 want to listen to this for the whole 38 00:01:46,270 --> 00:01:43,909 two-hour show you can either do that 39 00:01:49,419 --> 00:01:46,280 live on youtube or on our website 40 00:01:51,249 --> 00:01:49,429 podcast UFO calm or you can listen to 41 00:01:53,139 --> 00:01:51,259 the full podcast on the dark matter 42 00:01:57,219 --> 00:01:53,149 digital network and that's every 43 00:02:00,070 --> 00:01:57,229 Thursday at 10:00 to midnight Eastern 44 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:00,080 Standard Time and again if you are 45 00:02:04,809 --> 00:02:01,970 supporting the show I want to thank you 46 00:02:07,029 --> 00:02:04,819 very much and we have a lot of great 47 00:02:09,210 --> 00:02:07,039 guests coming up and I hope you're 48 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:09,220 enjoying these shows as we go along here 49 00:02:15,790 --> 00:02:13,610 we are interesting times as well and for 50 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:15,800 that to talk a little bit more about 51 00:02:21,699 --> 00:02:19,250 that is the one and only Alejandro Rojas 52 00:02:23,970 --> 00:02:21,709 welcome to the show Alejandro hello 53 00:02:27,699 --> 00:02:23,980 thank you for having me Oh 54 00:02:29,050 --> 00:02:27,709 always a pleasure sir look at your 55 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:29,060 background there you've got a lot of 56 00:02:32,130 --> 00:02:30,890 stuff going on there I see a dollar 57 00:02:35,619 --> 00:02:32,140 jogged 58 00:02:39,009 --> 00:02:35,629 that was it last part of a dog getting 59 00:02:41,259 --> 00:02:39,019 after his - wakey tale yeah I know I 60 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:41,269 think I had to light off and it was 61 00:02:46,990 --> 00:02:42,650 probably better with the light off 62 00:02:49,540 --> 00:02:47,000 because we've got not at least on my 63 00:02:52,420 --> 00:02:49,550 half of the desk not total chaos but 64 00:02:54,580 --> 00:02:52,430 some messes but we have like t-shirt 65 00:02:58,509 --> 00:02:54,590 samples for t-shirts were printing for 66 00:03:02,070 --> 00:02:58,519 the conference and of course all that 67 00:03:06,330 --> 00:03:02,080 kind of stuff that here's this a back 68 00:03:08,890 --> 00:03:06,340 thing I got for my girlfriend there and 69 00:03:10,750 --> 00:03:08,900 we're Christmas that of course is just 70 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:10,760 sitting there I don't think she's used 71 00:03:17,170 --> 00:03:11,330 at 72 00:03:19,570 --> 00:03:17,180 yet hundreds of dollars but yeah we've 73 00:03:22,060 --> 00:03:19,580 got a lot going on back there you do and 74 00:03:23,500 --> 00:03:22,070 I'm getting you know for every cold day 75 00:03:26,230 --> 00:03:23,510 that goes by here you know we've been in 76 00:03:28,330 --> 00:03:26,240 such a cold snap negative 20 degrees 77 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:28,340 here it's actually starting to warm up 78 00:03:34,030 --> 00:03:31,370 but for every single cold day I look so 79 00:03:36,900 --> 00:03:34,040 forward to Arizona coming up next month 80 00:03:39,700 --> 00:03:36,910 it is it was rainy a little bit 81 00:03:43,110 --> 00:03:39,710 yesterday and last night and a tiny bit 82 00:03:45,610 --> 00:03:43,120 today cloudy but it it cleared up and 83 00:03:48,070 --> 00:03:45,620 that's about how it goes here when we've 84 00:03:51,370 --> 00:03:48,080 got rain it's for maybe the afternoon 85 00:03:53,290 --> 00:03:51,380 and then it's gone so it's weird cuz 86 00:03:56,110 --> 00:03:53,300 when I first moved out here you go 87 00:03:59,290 --> 00:03:56,120 literally a month without a cloud in the 88 00:04:02,770 --> 00:03:59,300 sky really strange I'm I'm a big I love 89 00:04:04,180 --> 00:04:02,780 the sunshine so I don't mind it but but 90 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:04,190 yeah we're we're gonna have clear skies 91 00:04:08,290 --> 00:04:07,010 and the weather should be great and it's 92 00:04:11,140 --> 00:04:08,300 always fun because you know we get a 93 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:11,150 hang out outside yeah and of course 94 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:13,250 you'll be in there helping out probably 95 00:04:19,150 --> 00:04:15,920 running a camera here and there doing 96 00:04:21,310 --> 00:04:19,160 some more it's exciting because it it's 97 00:04:22,930 --> 00:04:21,320 fun you know I know that you're a techie 98 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:22,940 look at you you always challenge 99 00:04:26,830 --> 00:04:24,560 yourself working with all of this 100 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:26,840 technology yeah and speaking of that I 101 00:04:32,620 --> 00:04:29,210 have help now this is our first week 102 00:04:35,500 --> 00:04:32,630 with some help so we have help I have 103 00:04:37,930 --> 00:04:35,510 someone helping me out so the shows 104 00:04:41,950 --> 00:04:37,940 hopefully will run a little smoother 105 00:04:43,780 --> 00:04:41,960 well and you know I'm just teasing but 106 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:43,790 we've gone pretty far so far without a 107 00:04:53,140 --> 00:04:50,570 major glitch and that's not yeah yeah so 108 00:04:55,330 --> 00:04:53,150 what's happening for news this week news 109 00:04:57,730 --> 00:04:55,340 this week a couple things going on so 110 00:05:00,220 --> 00:04:57,740 this is really interesting I like this 111 00:05:03,130 --> 00:05:00,230 story in this angle and I even used it 112 00:05:05,740 --> 00:05:03,140 in a recent story of mine so these guys 113 00:05:07,990 --> 00:05:05,750 asked it's the East Anglian Daily Times 114 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:08,000 a UK paper and they were like could the 115 00:05:13,450 --> 00:05:10,250 US government hold key information on 116 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:13,460 the Rendlesham UFO sightings that's an 117 00:05:19,810 --> 00:05:17,090 interesting question here's why and so I 118 00:05:23,230 --> 00:05:19,820 wrote an article called the DoD UFO news 119 00:05:25,070 --> 00:05:23,240 is fading now what now I've talked about 120 00:05:27,230 --> 00:05:25,080 this I think these will recur 121 00:05:31,010 --> 00:05:27,240 but one of the things that the guy who 122 00:05:35,300 --> 00:05:31,020 runs a program Lou Elizondo said is that 123 00:05:38,179 --> 00:05:35,310 they had investigated people who had 124 00:05:41,990 --> 00:05:38,189 claimed to have physical effects to 125 00:05:43,700 --> 00:05:42,000 their body due to UFOs well one of the 126 00:05:47,749 --> 00:05:43,710 most well known people to have a 127 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:47,759 physical effect and we even gave him an 128 00:05:51,740 --> 00:05:49,289 award a couple years ago because of the 129 00:05:54,309 --> 00:05:51,750 research he did for himself on this is 130 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:54,319 John Burroughs from the Rendlesham 131 00:05:59,240 --> 00:05:57,330 encounter he and his partner Jim 132 00:06:01,189 --> 00:05:59,250 Penniston felt like they had physical 133 00:06:04,820 --> 00:06:01,199 effects that later in their lives caused 134 00:06:07,219 --> 00:06:04,830 them issue they went to go get VA 135 00:06:09,890 --> 00:06:07,229 benefits for you know this potential 136 00:06:11,689 --> 00:06:09,900 issue that they had you know John had 137 00:06:15,709 --> 00:06:11,699 heart problems that they believe might 138 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:15,719 have stemmed from this situation and at 139 00:06:20,269 --> 00:06:17,370 first the VA said well you weren't even 140 00:06:21,980 --> 00:06:20,279 in the military at this time so John did 141 00:06:23,570 --> 00:06:21,990 all of this research he got a lawyer 142 00:06:26,959 --> 00:06:23,580 they had to prove he was in the military 143 00:06:28,580 --> 00:06:26,969 his medical seal crazy huh yeah medical 144 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:28,590 record sealed they said they'll never 145 00:06:33,050 --> 00:06:31,289 come out finally he did get his VA 146 00:06:36,850 --> 00:06:33,060 benefits but we haven't seen the medical 147 00:06:39,140 --> 00:06:36,860 records but he also discovered a UK 148 00:06:41,629 --> 00:06:39,150 document that was previously crap 149 00:06:43,879 --> 00:06:41,639 classified and people knew about this it 150 00:06:46,820 --> 00:06:43,889 was called the conduct condign report 151 00:06:49,999 --> 00:06:46,830 interesting enough just so similar to 152 00:06:52,309 --> 00:06:50,009 the condom on mm-hmm and it said it 153 00:06:54,350 --> 00:06:52,319 speculated now this was speculation but 154 00:06:56,749 --> 00:06:54,360 it's speculated perhaps that these 155 00:06:59,779 --> 00:06:56,759 people who came into contact with this 156 00:07:02,809 --> 00:06:59,789 unknown lights and things did have 157 00:07:04,519 --> 00:07:02,819 physical effects and so that has been 158 00:07:07,820 --> 00:07:04,529 speculated before 159 00:07:09,589 --> 00:07:07,830 so when Elizondo says they investigated 160 00:07:12,140 --> 00:07:09,599 people who believed they had physical 161 00:07:13,909 --> 00:07:12,150 effects could it possibly be Rendlesham 162 00:07:14,839 --> 00:07:13,919 it would make a lot of sense that that 163 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:14,849 would be one of them 164 00:07:18,519 --> 00:07:16,770 so that's some interesting but of course 165 00:07:21,019 --> 00:07:18,529 we don't know so we're all out here 166 00:07:24,939 --> 00:07:21,029 speculating right now but that's an 167 00:07:28,129 --> 00:07:24,949 interesting question to be asking so 168 00:07:32,269 --> 00:07:28,139 that's I feel a good one the other thing 169 00:07:34,699 --> 00:07:32,279 of course is the x-files oh yeah 170 00:07:37,430 --> 00:07:34,709 came out news around that everybody's 171 00:07:38,510 --> 00:07:37,440 trying to tie you know x-files into UFO 172 00:07:44,990 --> 00:07:38,520 news 173 00:07:48,439 --> 00:07:45,000 have come out is that the UK government 174 00:07:51,469 --> 00:07:48,449 and this is also ties to John burrows 175 00:07:53,180 --> 00:07:51,479 because John burrows he did some 176 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:53,190 research and found that there were some 177 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:55,919 UK documents UFO documents that hadn't 178 00:08:00,020 --> 00:07:58,410 been released he said hey guys released 179 00:08:01,339 --> 00:08:00,030 these documents this is part of the 180 00:08:02,990 --> 00:08:01,349 reason we gave him the researcher of the 181 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:03,000 year a couple of years ago cos during 182 00:08:07,309 --> 00:08:05,370 this investigation he found these files 183 00:08:08,689 --> 00:08:07,319 and they said well we're gonna release 184 00:08:10,909 --> 00:08:08,699 them because at the time they were 185 00:08:13,490 --> 00:08:10,919 currently they were releasing files on a 186 00:08:15,350 --> 00:08:13,500 regular basis well all of the files came 187 00:08:17,899 --> 00:08:15,360 out but the files Burroughs was looking 188 00:08:19,580 --> 00:08:17,909 for were not there hmm 189 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:19,590 and they ignored him he kept saying to 190 00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:21,210 you to the UK look you guys said you 191 00:08:24,620 --> 00:08:22,470 were gonna release his files and you 192 00:08:26,899 --> 00:08:24,630 haven't they ignored him then finally a 193 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:26,909 UK citizen who read about what had John 194 00:08:31,159 --> 00:08:29,490 Burroughs had done said hey you know 195 00:08:32,870 --> 00:08:31,169 this guy found these other files are you 196 00:08:34,850 --> 00:08:32,880 gonna release those files and they did 197 00:08:36,740 --> 00:08:34,860 respond to him and they said yes we're 198 00:08:39,469 --> 00:08:36,750 gonna release those files oops sorry I 199 00:08:41,389 --> 00:08:39,479 guess we had some more files that was 200 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:41,399 years ago so it's taken them years 201 00:08:47,630 --> 00:08:43,770 Reilly last year they released all but 202 00:08:49,940 --> 00:08:47,640 three a story came out in the last week 203 00:08:52,639 --> 00:08:49,950 and Nick Pope was part of this story 204 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:52,649 that they finally released the final 205 00:08:59,300 --> 00:08:56,450 three files really finally but 206 00:09:00,980 --> 00:08:59,310 apparently they did not those three 207 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:00,990 files haven't been released some 208 00:09:06,740 --> 00:09:03,930 researchers in particular a guy who 209 00:09:08,660 --> 00:09:06,750 named goes by the name Isaac coy he's 210 00:09:12,170 --> 00:09:08,670 actually a barrister what they called 211 00:09:13,670 --> 00:09:12,180 kind of a out there in the UK and but he 212 00:09:16,519 --> 00:09:13,680 doesn't use his real name because he's 213 00:09:18,079 --> 00:09:16,529 got such a important position he doesn't 214 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:18,089 want it to affect his position that he's 215 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:20,010 so interested in UFOs but he's an 216 00:09:26,269 --> 00:09:23,730 archivist essentially and he said no no 217 00:09:28,730 --> 00:09:26,279 he discovered this is just a more 218 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:28,740 redacted version of three of the files 219 00:09:33,650 --> 00:09:31,440 that had already been released so 220 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:33,660 unfortunately we are not out yet but 221 00:09:36,980 --> 00:09:35,130 what's interesting with these files 222 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:36,990 along with the last ones that they 223 00:09:44,690 --> 00:09:40,970 released is you have to go to the Q 224 00:09:46,670 --> 00:09:44,700 archives National Archives in Q which is 225 00:09:49,310 --> 00:09:46,680 outside of London this town outside of 226 00:09:52,340 --> 00:09:49,320 London in order to see these files that 227 00:09:54,020 --> 00:09:52,350 they have not released these files 228 00:09:58,130 --> 00:09:54,030 on the Internet as they have done 229 00:10:01,130 --> 00:09:58,140 previously and in the UK they have 230 00:10:03,170 --> 00:10:01,140 copyright over their government files so 231 00:10:05,030 --> 00:10:03,180 you not unlike the United States where 232 00:10:06,950 --> 00:10:05,040 you know we can download them and share 233 00:10:09,110 --> 00:10:06,960 them all we want there you have to pay 234 00:10:11,330 --> 00:10:09,120 for them and you can't let them out 235 00:10:14,150 --> 00:10:11,340 so there are people who have gotten them 236 00:10:18,020 --> 00:10:14,160 and given summaries but this is this 237 00:10:19,460 --> 00:10:18,030 same gentleman isaac coy and you know 238 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:19,470 what i should have written a link or 239 00:10:23,210 --> 00:10:21,090 write a story about this and i'll do 240 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:23,220 that but you you guys free listeners out 241 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:24,930 there you can google this and you'll 242 00:10:32,210 --> 00:10:28,410 find it well on beyond top secret the 243 00:10:35,450 --> 00:10:32,220 forum what isaac coy discovered is that 244 00:10:38,570 --> 00:10:35,460 he could he worked with them and they 245 00:10:41,900 --> 00:10:38,580 allowed him to put the files on a server 246 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:41,910 as long as it's password protected and 247 00:10:49,250 --> 00:10:45,090 he could share those files with people 248 00:10:52,250 --> 00:10:49,260 and he's doing that so if you go and i 249 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:52,260 you can find this on the isn't it beyond 250 00:10:57,890 --> 00:10:54,930 top secret that popular forum yeah yeah 251 00:11:00,170 --> 00:10:57,900 above top above top secret you're right 252 00:11:03,470 --> 00:11:00,180 above top secret if you go to that forum 253 00:11:06,860 --> 00:11:03,480 look for the UK UFO FILES and isaac 254 00:11:09,380 --> 00:11:06,870 quois strain our string on there you can 255 00:11:11,330 --> 00:11:09,390 email him or ask him right there hey can 256 00:11:12,890 --> 00:11:11,340 you send me the password and he'll send 257 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:12,900 you the password and you can go download 258 00:11:17,630 --> 00:11:14,970 those files so that's a way to get them 259 00:11:19,700 --> 00:11:17,640 for free and he says that he got 260 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:19,710 approval from the UK government he made 261 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:22,650 sure this was ok before he did it so at 262 00:11:27,410 --> 00:11:24,930 least as of yet they have not shut him 263 00:11:30,890 --> 00:11:27,420 down on this so you can get those files 264 00:11:33,110 --> 00:11:30,900 so just some clarity on the the files 265 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:33,120 have not all been released yet but 266 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:36,570 luckily isaac coy has made a way for us 267 00:11:41,420 --> 00:11:39,450 to get those files and I did go download 268 00:11:43,550 --> 00:11:41,430 those files so are you doing I don't 269 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:43,560 have to travel all the way to London to 270 00:11:50,510 --> 00:11:47,010 get them of anything revealing no 271 00:11:53,650 --> 00:11:50,520 they're mostly UFO sighting reports so 272 00:11:57,130 --> 00:11:53,660 far so nothing that extraordinary 273 00:11:59,750 --> 00:11:57,140 unfortunately but still you know 274 00:12:03,410 --> 00:11:59,760 interesting and we we don't know why 275 00:12:05,210 --> 00:12:03,420 exactly they you know didn't release 276 00:12:06,170 --> 00:12:05,220 these in the first place so we'll see 277 00:12:08,150 --> 00:12:06,180 you know 278 00:12:10,850 --> 00:12:08,160 it's been such a mystery we've talked 279 00:12:14,210 --> 00:12:10,860 about this before and it's taken so long 280 00:12:15,710 --> 00:12:14,220 and they're just mundane like citing 281 00:12:17,150 --> 00:12:15,720 reports it doesn't make any sense unless 282 00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:17,160 they couldn't find them or something 283 00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:18,690 thus far 284 00:12:25,070 --> 00:12:22,110 now Nick Pope who worked for the UK of 285 00:12:26,630 --> 00:12:25,080 course on kind of like Lou Elizondo he 286 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:26,640 worked for the government investigating 287 00:12:32,269 --> 00:12:30,450 UFOs he says that he does know what's in 288 00:12:34,370 --> 00:12:32,279 the rest of the files and there's 289 00:12:38,210 --> 00:12:34,380 somewhat interesting but they're not you 290 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:38,220 know anything major so he said don't get 291 00:12:41,150 --> 00:12:39,930 your hopes up because even when they do 292 00:12:44,930 --> 00:12:41,160 come out they're not going to be that 293 00:12:46,940 --> 00:12:44,940 exciting unfortunately but um yeah it's 294 00:12:48,889 --> 00:12:46,950 interesting and I would love to know why 295 00:12:52,130 --> 00:12:48,899 they haven't released these last three 296 00:12:54,199 --> 00:12:52,140 and when that will happen what do you 297 00:12:57,079 --> 00:12:54,209 think about what's been going on I'm 298 00:12:58,750 --> 00:12:57,089 seeing a lot of chatter out there about 299 00:13:02,180 --> 00:12:58,760 you know people trying to debunk the 300 00:13:04,639 --> 00:13:02,190 Pentagon videos and the whole situation 301 00:13:06,470 --> 00:13:04,649 I don't know if you've been looking or 302 00:13:08,540 --> 00:13:06,480 people are sending me things I don't 303 00:13:11,030 --> 00:13:08,550 know if people are sending you things as 304 00:13:16,570 --> 00:13:11,040 well yeah I mean I've heard things and 305 00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:16,580 I've seen a few things but nothing that 306 00:13:26,300 --> 00:13:21,680 credible with the caveat of at least 307 00:13:27,860 --> 00:13:26,310 fully debunking we do know I mean the 308 00:13:31,390 --> 00:13:27,870 DoD has already admitted that this 309 00:13:35,860 --> 00:13:31,400 program did exist and it was funded from 310 00:13:38,780 --> 00:13:35,870 2007 to 2012 so we know that no doubt 311 00:13:40,910 --> 00:13:38,790 blue Elizondo was vetted by these other 312 00:13:43,430 --> 00:13:40,920 defense intelligence people who worked 313 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:43,440 in defense intelligence who work with 314 00:13:49,340 --> 00:13:46,770 the to the Stars Academy now you know 315 00:13:52,190 --> 00:13:49,350 all of these guys working together the 316 00:13:54,890 --> 00:13:52,200 videos have been confirmed to come to be 317 00:13:57,319 --> 00:13:54,900 from where they were there is some 318 00:13:59,720 --> 00:13:57,329 question though because the question is 319 00:14:02,449 --> 00:13:59,730 and I've even written about this even in 320 00:14:04,550 --> 00:14:02,459 this latest story I wrote how did he get 321 00:14:07,430 --> 00:14:04,560 those files released now the Washington 322 00:14:09,710 --> 00:14:07,440 Post said that he kind of did it a bit 323 00:14:12,170 --> 00:14:09,720 under false pretense and in that he said 324 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:12,180 he was going to use them for educational 325 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:14,130 purposes and safety purposes and that's 326 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:16,650 how we got him released but then you 327 00:14:19,910 --> 00:14:18,450 know he really intended to show that the 328 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:19,920 to out this depart 329 00:14:25,490 --> 00:14:23,250 and he worked with but I've also heard 330 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:25,500 from very reliable sources and 331 00:14:30,050 --> 00:14:27,930 unfortunately as of yet I can't tell you 332 00:14:33,350 --> 00:14:30,060 who but it's you know people who would 333 00:14:35,230 --> 00:14:33,360 know that that's not true that the post 334 00:14:39,410 --> 00:14:35,240 got that completely wrong so that was a 335 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:39,420 false reporting I can tell you that I 336 00:14:45,949 --> 00:14:41,850 know we will have the ability to clear 337 00:14:48,189 --> 00:14:45,959 all this up soon you know so answers 338 00:14:52,900 --> 00:14:48,199 will be forthcoming in the near future 339 00:14:57,319 --> 00:14:52,910 yeah so so we'll be able to hear from 340 00:15:00,800 --> 00:14:57,329 about that but otherwise these stories 341 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:00,810 about you know that they faked them I 342 00:15:04,009 --> 00:15:02,490 mean it's kind of like the moon stories 343 00:15:06,170 --> 00:15:04,019 we didn't go to the moon that the whole 344 00:15:07,550 --> 00:15:06,180 moon thing was faked type people you 345 00:15:09,079 --> 00:15:07,560 know you can show them whatever and 346 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:09,089 they're gonna believe things are faked 347 00:15:15,980 --> 00:15:13,410 so I mean we have the pilots who of the 348 00:15:17,900 --> 00:15:15,990 whole situation coming out and talking 349 00:15:21,610 --> 00:15:17,910 all over the place about it you can go 350 00:15:24,350 --> 00:15:21,620 to Facebook and there are forums of 351 00:15:28,939 --> 00:15:24,360 ex-navy people who were on board these 352 00:15:30,769 --> 00:15:28,949 craft and I by that I mean the ships who 353 00:15:32,269 --> 00:15:30,779 were there when these things happen and 354 00:15:33,650 --> 00:15:32,279 they're in the forums just talking about 355 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:33,660 oh yeah I remember them when that 356 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:34,890 happened and you know kids their 357 00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:37,410 colleagues and stuff yeah so it's just 358 00:15:43,340 --> 00:15:40,079 there's just an abundance of evidence to 359 00:15:46,910 --> 00:15:43,350 show the situation took place that these 360 00:15:49,540 --> 00:15:46,920 people are legitimate so thus far we 361 00:15:53,060 --> 00:15:49,550 don't really I don't feel have any 362 00:15:55,130 --> 00:15:53,070 substantial reason to doubt and one 363 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:55,140 thing that I've thought of in this and I 364 00:15:59,120 --> 00:15:56,730 don't know if you know this or not but I 365 00:16:02,500 --> 00:15:59,130 wonder if they've looked at any earlier 366 00:16:04,519 --> 00:16:02,510 say videos or pictures that the military 367 00:16:07,189 --> 00:16:04,529 got ahold of when they were doing that 368 00:16:09,380 --> 00:16:07,199 five-year study did that ever come up 369 00:16:13,130 --> 00:16:09,390 that you're aware of well no not yet 370 00:16:15,220 --> 00:16:13,140 because you know Lou is is just like a 371 00:16:18,439 --> 00:16:15,230 lot of these people like Nick Pope like 372 00:16:25,329 --> 00:16:18,449 others who even Colonel Charles halt 373 00:16:28,130 --> 00:16:25,339 they are patriots they still feel 374 00:16:30,500 --> 00:16:28,140 positive about their cooperation with 375 00:16:33,220 --> 00:16:30,510 the government or their careers in the 376 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:33,230 military and they don't want to 377 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:35,250 divulge anything that they're not 378 00:16:40,910 --> 00:16:38,610 supposed to yeah and Lewis only gotten 379 00:16:43,940 --> 00:16:40,920 permission to talk about certain things 380 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:43,950 and so that's all he's talked about thus 381 00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:47,490 far so we don't have that information 382 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:49,680 however there's no doubt there's a 383 00:16:56,590 --> 00:16:53,250 mountain of FOIA requests that they've 384 00:16:59,450 --> 00:16:56,600 received to release this information 385 00:17:01,880 --> 00:16:59,460 especially now that all these major news 386 00:17:06,110 --> 00:17:01,890 outlets note this information is there 387 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:06,120 and and so we'll see I'm sure that 388 00:17:10,250 --> 00:17:07,890 there'll be some information released 389 00:17:13,550 --> 00:17:10,260 but this is an interesting story Robert 390 00:17:16,100 --> 00:17:13,560 Powell who you know he works with the 391 00:17:17,930 --> 00:17:16,110 scientific Coalition for ufology your 392 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:17,940 guest tonight is part of that group as 393 00:17:20,990 --> 00:17:18,930 well 394 00:17:24,590 --> 00:17:21,000 charles is kind of a new member of the 395 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:24,600 group too and so but robert has been 396 00:17:29,390 --> 00:17:26,490 working on the Nimitz case we talked 397 00:17:31,070 --> 00:17:29,400 about this even last week I think and he 398 00:17:33,140 --> 00:17:31,080 was hopeful that now that all of this 399 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:33,150 kind of came out that he would get some 400 00:17:37,670 --> 00:17:35,730 more read more files and he even 401 00:17:38,930 --> 00:17:37,680 indicated that they had indicated the 402 00:17:42,050 --> 00:17:38,940 Navy that they were going to give him 403 00:17:43,790 --> 00:17:42,060 some more under his FOIA request but he 404 00:17:46,930 --> 00:17:43,800 got a response recently and they said 405 00:17:49,220 --> 00:17:46,940 nope nothing else well you know 406 00:17:51,650 --> 00:17:49,230 something I never even thought of and 407 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:51,660 that you just mentioned I never even 408 00:17:56,900 --> 00:17:53,010 thought of this but you're right news 409 00:17:59,810 --> 00:17:56,910 news media could be filing for you know 410 00:18:01,910 --> 00:17:59,820 freedom formation there's no doubt that 411 00:18:04,340 --> 00:18:01,920 they are and they have a lot more 412 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:04,350 influence than the normal person for 413 00:18:08,690 --> 00:18:06,570 instance Chicago O'Hare when that 414 00:18:10,970 --> 00:18:08,700 important UFO situation happened where 415 00:18:14,930 --> 00:18:10,980 United personnel were reporting this UFO 416 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:14,940 over a gate in Chicago here in 2008 w 417 00:18:19,910 --> 00:18:16,530 yeah yeah 418 00:18:21,950 --> 00:18:19,920 c17 gate c-17 UFO researchers could not 419 00:18:23,930 --> 00:18:21,960 get any information they were 420 00:18:25,130 --> 00:18:23,940 essentially blown off and told it was 421 00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:25,140 weather phenomena and stuff like this 422 00:18:30,260 --> 00:18:27,840 the Chicago Tribune 423 00:18:33,260 --> 00:18:30,270 put in a FOIA request and the next day 424 00:18:34,910 --> 00:18:33,270 they got a response and information so 425 00:18:36,830 --> 00:18:34,920 it shows they have a lot more pool than 426 00:18:39,650 --> 00:18:36,840 unfortunately the regular Joe out there 427 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:39,660 so yeah so no doubt that there's people 428 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:41,370 working very hard at getting some more 429 00:18:45,740 --> 00:18:43,410 information out I should mention one 430 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:45,750 other thing too along the lines of the 431 00:18:49,549 --> 00:18:47,490 hoax or people trying to show 432 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:49,559 that these videos are de Munck T's 433 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:52,530 videos we did have posted story from a 434 00:18:57,620 --> 00:18:55,170 German researcher who andreas möller who 435 00:18:58,370 --> 00:18:57,630 is one of the contributors to our 436 00:19:00,860 --> 00:18:58,380 website 437 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:00,870 he runs a frontier science were kind of 438 00:19:06,350 --> 00:19:04,170 paranormal site in Germany he did some 439 00:19:08,810 --> 00:19:06,360 research because that video the nimitz 440 00:19:12,169 --> 00:19:08,820 video that Elizondo and the two the 441 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:12,179 stars released was released somehow 442 00:19:17,630 --> 00:19:14,730 parts of that video part of that video 443 00:19:20,360 --> 00:19:17,640 was leaked onto the internet years ago 444 00:19:22,790 --> 00:19:20,370 and that is a mystery we don't know how 445 00:19:25,549 --> 00:19:22,800 now they did find that that video on a 446 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:25,559 server for a german movie production 447 00:19:30,530 --> 00:19:27,690 company that does animation and stuff 448 00:19:32,299 --> 00:19:30,540 like that so Andres got a hold of them 449 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:32,309 and said hey did you guys create this 450 00:19:36,530 --> 00:19:34,050 what why did you have this file on your 451 00:19:38,510 --> 00:19:36,540 server they said they don't know that 452 00:19:40,669 --> 00:19:38,520 they did some research where they asked 453 00:19:43,310 --> 00:19:40,679 their ex employees they're not sure how 454 00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:43,320 that was gotten onto their server but 455 00:19:48,650 --> 00:19:45,360 they think it was probably downloaded 456 00:19:50,410 --> 00:19:48,660 for reference material so I've done this 457 00:19:53,780 --> 00:19:50,420 you know when I went to Hungary for Mars 458 00:19:55,580 --> 00:19:53,790 and I was on the set they will have and 459 00:19:59,330 --> 00:19:55,590 you can see in my pictures on Facebook 460 00:20:03,440 --> 00:19:59,340 their walls are covered with UFOs or 461 00:20:05,780 --> 00:20:03,450 space stuff bases NASA bases but also 462 00:20:08,299 --> 00:20:05,790 from from movies from television and 463 00:20:11,870 --> 00:20:08,309 it's just to inspire them and to give 464 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:11,880 them some inspiration and direction when 465 00:20:15,919 --> 00:20:13,530 they're creating their art or they're 466 00:20:17,419 --> 00:20:15,929 creating the the fake stuff for the 467 00:20:19,549 --> 00:20:17,429 movies and and things like that so 468 00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:19,559 that's why they think it was downloaded 469 00:20:24,380 --> 00:20:21,360 by one of their people but we still 470 00:20:26,810 --> 00:20:24,390 don't know how it was the leaked or who 471 00:20:29,180 --> 00:20:26,820 leaked it originally so that is a 472 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:29,190 question that is still out there yeah I 473 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:32,010 mean if they if they had it on their 474 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:34,410 server they had to get it from somewhere 475 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:36,450 what was on the internet they could have 476 00:20:41,270 --> 00:20:38,610 downloaded it from us is like many 477 00:20:44,030 --> 00:20:41,280 people did years ago when it first made 478 00:20:45,950 --> 00:20:44,040 an appearance on YouTube but nobody 479 00:20:48,410 --> 00:20:45,960 knows how it got there in the first 480 00:20:52,100 --> 00:20:48,420 place onto YouTube well what a mystery 481 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:52,110 but at least it's not the video company 482 00:20:56,510 --> 00:20:53,730 said there was no way that it was one of 483 00:20:58,790 --> 00:20:56,520 their productions right yeah yeah these 484 00:21:00,440 --> 00:20:58,800 are pretty pretty important answers it 485 00:21:01,310 --> 00:21:00,450 is important and people were saying why 486 00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:01,320 are you trying to 487 00:21:06,020 --> 00:21:03,600 the video and look at and people were 488 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:06,030 really upset with that with me for 489 00:21:11,390 --> 00:21:09,330 posting that story but it's a lead it's 490 00:21:13,580 --> 00:21:11,400 something you have to investigate and 491 00:21:16,190 --> 00:21:13,590 I'm really glad that andreas who's a 492 00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:16,200 great researcher he's excellent yeah I'm 493 00:21:19,850 --> 00:21:18,240 really glad that he did this research to 494 00:21:22,340 --> 00:21:19,860 find that out because now we know that 495 00:21:23,540 --> 00:21:22,350 that you know the situation that that's 496 00:21:25,490 --> 00:21:23,550 not where it came from 497 00:21:27,290 --> 00:21:25,500 yeah otherwise who knows they could have 498 00:21:29,180 --> 00:21:27,300 said oh yeah we made that that's part of 499 00:21:30,740 --> 00:21:29,190 our movie coming up you know and then we 500 00:21:34,180 --> 00:21:30,750 would have known hey there's something 501 00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:34,190 fishy going on here but yeah right 502 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:36,480 alright well that's it for this week 503 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:38,610 well thank you so much Alejandro that's 504 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:42,210 it stay tuned to the UFO Congress 505 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:44,730 because we haven't released who our 506 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:47,610 keynote is and we will be releasing that 507 00:21:52,340 --> 00:21:49,770 hopefully tomorrow neck definitely in 508 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:52,350 the next couple days and people are 509 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:54,810 gonna be very very happy about it I know 510 00:22:02,330 --> 00:21:57,210 I wish you could say it no yeah I wish I 511 00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:02,340 could too yeah but I assume it yeah and 512 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:05,520 just one more thing I'm sure that the 513 00:22:12,860 --> 00:22:08,370 the show that we did on on open minds is 514 00:22:15,860 --> 00:22:12,870 released now legal myself and you yes a 515 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:15,870 lot of fun review that's always a lot of 516 00:22:21,380 --> 00:22:18,810 them so that's online also the story I 517 00:22:23,810 --> 00:22:21,390 wrote the follow up to now what where I 518 00:22:26,570 --> 00:22:23,820 talk about all of the loose ends all of 519 00:22:29,410 --> 00:22:26,580 the open questions right all of them I 520 00:22:31,910 --> 00:22:29,420 can think of there's a lot more I'm sure 521 00:22:33,890 --> 00:22:31,920 that people can think of so yeah there's 522 00:22:36,860 --> 00:22:33,900 a lot of questions that need to be 523 00:22:38,330 --> 00:22:36,870 answered still yeah all right okay well 524 00:22:40,370 --> 00:22:38,340 thanks a lot and we'll see you next week 525 00:22:43,700 --> 00:22:40,380 all right thank you talk to you soon 526 00:22:45,410 --> 00:22:43,710 all right have a good one all right all 527 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:45,420 right everyone so hang on just a minute 528 00:22:53,780 --> 00:22:49,530 I'm gonna bring in Charles on in just a 529 00:22:58,670 --> 00:22:53,790 second here and so Charles is up in 530 00:23:03,080 --> 00:22:58,680 Canada and he has some really amazing 531 00:23:04,670 --> 00:23:03,090 infrared camera equipment this is kind 532 00:23:05,270 --> 00:23:04,680 of how all this started Charles welcome 533 00:23:09,470 --> 00:23:05,280 to the show 534 00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:09,480 hello Martin so it's I watched your 535 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:12,720 video actually watched it last year and 536 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:14,770 then I watched it again today 537 00:23:21,570 --> 00:23:17,530 and great stuff it was actually very 538 00:23:23,790 --> 00:23:21,580 well done which which 101 nocturnal 539 00:23:25,290 --> 00:23:23,800 lights I watched a lot of your videos 540 00:23:30,210 --> 00:23:25,300 but I mean nocturnal lights to the 541 00:23:33,450 --> 00:23:30,220 documentary oh great thanks yeah yeah so 542 00:23:36,270 --> 00:23:33,460 why don't you explain to the listener 543 00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:36,280 who you are and your you haven't been 544 00:23:39,630 --> 00:23:37,990 really paying attention to UFOs that 545 00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:39,640 long you never even really thought much 546 00:23:45,810 --> 00:23:42,910 of them until you you basically are an 547 00:23:47,490 --> 00:23:45,820 amateur strum astronomer and you saw 548 00:23:49,530 --> 00:23:47,500 this thing go across the moon and that's 549 00:23:52,410 --> 00:23:49,540 what started your interest right that's 550 00:23:56,220 --> 00:23:52,420 it exactly it about ten years ago now 551 00:23:58,590 --> 00:23:56,230 Wow time flies you know all my life I've 552 00:24:01,919 --> 00:23:58,600 been looking at the Stars I've had many 553 00:24:04,580 --> 00:24:01,929 many telescopes UFOs or the last thing 554 00:24:07,169 --> 00:24:04,590 in my mind that I ever see in my life 555 00:24:09,419 --> 00:24:07,179 really a skeptic never really believed 556 00:24:13,260 --> 00:24:09,429 in them it's fantasy it's you know it's 557 00:24:14,910 --> 00:24:13,270 TV sci-fi but one night about ten years 558 00:24:17,610 --> 00:24:14,920 ago I had my telescope out and I was 559 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:17,620 gonna do Astro photography of the moon 560 00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:19,090 you don't take some great shots cause a 561 00:24:23,850 --> 00:24:21,760 big full moon and while I was sitting up 562 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:23,860 and getting the camera all lined up take 563 00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:25,330 some photos 564 00:24:31,169 --> 00:24:28,720 this large triangular shaped craft it 565 00:24:35,070 --> 00:24:31,179 was a craft because it was huge it was 566 00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:35,080 slowly going across the moon and it was 567 00:24:38,730 --> 00:24:36,880 so amazing because I know I know what a 568 00:24:41,610 --> 00:24:38,740 kite looks like I know the skies I know 569 00:24:43,740 --> 00:24:41,620 stars know meteorological satellites all 570 00:24:45,810 --> 00:24:43,750 that stuff this thing was huge and it 571 00:24:48,690 --> 00:24:45,820 had definition to it it was a triangular 572 00:24:50,490 --> 00:24:48,700 shaped object and I didn't even take a 573 00:24:52,830 --> 00:24:50,500 photograph I mean I was all set up I had 574 00:24:57,330 --> 00:24:52,840 my Canon 6d I mean it was all very 575 00:24:58,890 --> 00:24:57,340 burned to go and so after that 576 00:25:01,230 --> 00:24:58,900 experience you know I had Shepherds down 577 00:25:04,590 --> 00:25:01,240 my spine and I really want to learn more 578 00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:04,600 about what that was and again it went by 579 00:25:10,530 --> 00:25:08,080 my mind yes this this was a UFO and I'm 580 00:25:14,130 --> 00:25:10,540 a skeptic so after that experience I I 581 00:25:17,130 --> 00:25:14,140 went through I can tell you days weeks 582 00:25:20,610 --> 00:25:17,140 months on the internet I researched 583 00:25:23,310 --> 00:25:20,620 everything on UFOs and I actually got 584 00:25:26,130 --> 00:25:23,320 into Allison Cruz's site she did a lot 585 00:25:27,950 --> 00:25:26,140 of night vision captures of some really 586 00:25:29,930 --> 00:25:27,960 weird objects and OH 587 00:25:32,570 --> 00:25:29,940 they're different YouTube videos of 588 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:32,580 course a lot of the hoax video videos 589 00:25:36,770 --> 00:25:34,170 that are out there yeah I thought were 590 00:25:39,230 --> 00:25:36,780 real euro falls at the time and realize 591 00:25:41,690 --> 00:25:39,240 quickly that they were fake because they 592 00:25:44,540 --> 00:25:41,700 did not look anything like what I saw so 593 00:25:46,010 --> 00:25:44,550 from then on I saw my telescope and I 594 00:25:47,780 --> 00:25:46,020 bought myself a whole bunch of night 595 00:25:50,180 --> 00:25:47,790 vision gear so I spent over ten thousand 596 00:25:52,610 --> 00:25:50,190 dollars worth of equipment set myself up 597 00:25:55,340 --> 00:25:52,620 on my balcony here in downtown Vancouver 598 00:25:57,380 --> 00:25:55,350 and within the first couple of weeks I 599 00:25:58,970 --> 00:25:57,390 was seeing a lot of different things in 600 00:26:01,100 --> 00:25:58,980 night vision and this is the first time 601 00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:01,110 I'm using night vision and of course I 602 00:26:05,570 --> 00:26:04,080 was videotaping bugs Birds bats and 603 00:26:08,150 --> 00:26:05,580 everything and I thought they were like 604 00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:08,160 UFOs because the night vision the skies 605 00:26:11,810 --> 00:26:09,600 are totally different from from a 606 00:26:12,140 --> 00:26:11,820 telescope right so again it didn't take 607 00:26:13,730 --> 00:26:12,150 me long 608 00:26:16,820 --> 00:26:13,740 but I realized afterwards those weren't 609 00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:16,830 UFOs but not long after that I did 610 00:26:20,690 --> 00:26:18,600 capture my first one it came about 50 611 00:26:22,850 --> 00:26:20,700 feet from my from my apartment it wasn't 612 00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:22,860 a bat wasn't a bird and I call it the 613 00:26:28,790 --> 00:26:26,760 amazing energy orb and it's it's 614 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:28,800 basically on my on my youtube channel 615 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:31,770 and also its own on the film and it came 616 00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:33,810 about fifty feet from me and it was only 617 00:26:37,460 --> 00:26:35,670 observable in the infrared spectrum 618 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:37,470 which was really unusual because it was 619 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:39,690 50 feet away and I was looking up and I 620 00:26:42,620 --> 00:26:41,610 was looking on my screen and looking up 621 00:26:44,660 --> 00:26:42,630 there's nothing there but there's 622 00:26:47,930 --> 00:26:44,670 something there and it was a good size 623 00:26:49,310 --> 00:26:47,940 it was a beach ball size and so it can 624 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:49,320 it continued after that so that was my 625 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:51,930 first real capture and I've been hooked 626 00:26:57,740 --> 00:26:52,770 ever since 627 00:27:01,840 --> 00:26:57,750 so this this is interesting also because 628 00:27:05,870 --> 00:27:01,850 I was out in Phoenix a few years ago and 629 00:27:08,420 --> 00:27:05,880 doing a night you know sky watch with 630 00:27:12,170 --> 00:27:08,430 Ben Hansen he had from fact or faked 631 00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:12,180 yeah he he has a really nice equipment 632 00:27:17,570 --> 00:27:15,360 you know night vision and so I was using 633 00:27:19,580 --> 00:27:17,580 this night vision out there and I saw a 634 00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:19,590 bat in the bat you know the first thing 635 00:27:23,210 --> 00:27:20,880 I thought of oh my god that's a UFO 636 00:27:24,860 --> 00:27:23,220 because of the way it was moving it was 637 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:24,870 moving in such zigzags and all of a 638 00:27:31,690 --> 00:27:26,490 sudden I said oh my god that's a bat I 639 00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:31,700 can understand how you know someone can 640 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:35,520 you know someone can get fooled easily 641 00:27:41,810 --> 00:27:38,970 by you know in in well one of the major 642 00:27:44,420 --> 00:27:41,820 Chilean videos that they thought 643 00:27:45,980 --> 00:27:44,430 was real ended up being insects you know 644 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:45,990 and that's that's a government program 645 00:27:50,990 --> 00:27:49,290 to well you know it's really easy and 646 00:27:52,730 --> 00:27:51,000 people that are really serious about 647 00:27:55,580 --> 00:27:52,740 this and they and they buy the gear like 648 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:55,590 I did and if they don't learn the 649 00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:57,210 correct way at the beginning and they 650 00:28:01,910 --> 00:27:58,890 continue and they believe what they're 651 00:28:03,650 --> 00:28:01,920 filming is actually UFO and Orbis fear 652 00:28:05,330 --> 00:28:03,660 or whatever you want to call it they're 653 00:28:06,890 --> 00:28:05,340 gonna continue believing that is a UFO 654 00:28:09,470 --> 00:28:06,900 and I can tell you one thing right now 655 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:09,480 after eight years of doing this they are 656 00:28:14,390 --> 00:28:11,730 hard to film they are hard to find 657 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:14,400 they're hard to see nighty I was going 658 00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,050 out there every night during clear 659 00:28:20,420 --> 00:28:18,240 nights and an 8-year period 660 00:28:23,270 --> 00:28:20,430 I've spent over well over a thousand 661 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:23,280 hours of sky watching Wow so I know my 662 00:28:28,190 --> 00:28:25,890 skies and I know when enormous fear or 663 00:28:30,620 --> 00:28:28,200 UFO looks like in infrared or a night 664 00:28:34,340 --> 00:28:30,630 vision and of course I've seen many many 665 00:28:37,130 --> 00:28:34,350 with with the naked eye as well now 666 00:28:41,030 --> 00:28:37,140 speaking of the naked eye in end of 667 00:28:43,730 --> 00:28:41,040 infrared I think let's say I made a note 668 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:43,740 here so the the range of visible 669 00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:47,610 wavelengths in in the spectrum is 400 to 670 00:28:53,420 --> 00:28:50,910 700 nanometers right so I've always 671 00:28:55,670 --> 00:28:53,430 wondered about that in something you 672 00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:55,680 said at the end of your your documentary 673 00:29:01,700 --> 00:28:58,530 is kind of like along the lines of my 674 00:29:03,740 --> 00:29:01,710 wonderment and that is are these things 675 00:29:05,900 --> 00:29:03,750 around us all the time and we just don't 676 00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:05,910 see them well you know that's a 677 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:07,620 possibility there's no doubt about that 678 00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:10,650 and know that it's a theory of mine is 679 00:29:15,470 --> 00:29:13,200 that it's either and again it just 680 00:29:17,660 --> 00:29:15,480 recently in the last couple of years the 681 00:29:19,910 --> 00:29:17,670 last two captures that I've got on on 682 00:29:23,330 --> 00:29:19,920 night vision both of them weren't picked 683 00:29:24,850 --> 00:29:23,340 up in infrared or sorry in thermal and I 684 00:29:27,650 --> 00:29:24,860 couldn't see with the naked eye as well 685 00:29:29,660 --> 00:29:27,660 but that doesn't necessarily mean that 686 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:29,670 if you probably couldn't see it with the 687 00:29:33,530 --> 00:29:31,050 naked eye it could have been just too 688 00:29:37,340 --> 00:29:33,540 dim at night to actually see with your 689 00:29:39,050 --> 00:29:37,350 naked eye but I know when I had the one 690 00:29:41,810 --> 00:29:39,060 first one that was fifty feet from me 691 00:29:44,060 --> 00:29:41,820 anything in this guy that size beach 692 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:44,070 sized beach ball size if I can't see 693 00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:45,570 with the naked eye and it's resolving 694 00:29:50,810 --> 00:29:48,000 right now on the screen in infrared that 695 00:29:53,450 --> 00:29:50,820 was completely only available in 696 00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:53,460 infrared spectrum so that one I didn't 697 00:29:56,990 --> 00:29:55,200 get to you that was one that was 698 00:29:59,330 --> 00:29:57,000 you know hidden into the naked eye so 699 00:30:01,340 --> 00:29:59,340 might be that's a possibility 700 00:30:03,710 --> 00:30:01,350 what would be really interesting is 701 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:03,720 something that you can't see with the 702 00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:06,210 naked eye but if it showed up on some 703 00:30:09,769 --> 00:30:07,679 type of radar or something that would be 704 00:30:14,149 --> 00:30:09,779 really interesting to me well I think 705 00:30:16,129 --> 00:30:14,159 there's a group the histone project yes 706 00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:16,139 they're doing it they have radar and 707 00:30:21,529 --> 00:30:18,510 they've been picking up some objects on 708 00:30:22,580 --> 00:30:21,539 radar so again I haven't been following 709 00:30:25,009 --> 00:30:22,590 a lot what they've been doing recently 710 00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:25,019 but I think that has some good data now 711 00:30:29,690 --> 00:30:28,169 and not sure if it's the ones that 712 00:30:31,490 --> 00:30:29,700 they're picking up with infrared but a 713 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:31,500 lot of their object that they they're 714 00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:33,450 capturing are actually bright and you 715 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:36,289 can see with the naked eye the very very 716 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:39,330 orange amber orange very bright or 717 00:30:44,210 --> 00:30:42,570 yellow or white and I've seen a lot of 718 00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:44,220 those where I live as well but those are 719 00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,510 the ones I could never capture on film 720 00:30:49,789 --> 00:30:47,760 because they're spontaneously just whoa 721 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:49,799 my god there was there's one I had to 722 00:30:53,539 --> 00:30:51,330 grab my cameras by that time they're 723 00:30:55,340 --> 00:30:53,549 gone so when I have that my hunting is 724 00:30:58,490 --> 00:30:55,350 when I'm hunting with infrared and I 725 00:31:03,379 --> 00:30:58,500 picked them up you have a shout out in 726 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:03,389 the in the chatroom someone says this 727 00:31:09,289 --> 00:31:05,610 guy thinks you're very credible and his 728 00:31:12,139 --> 00:31:09,299 name is Doug from Eddy's sits he says hi 729 00:31:15,649 --> 00:31:12,149 do you know who that is done from Doug 730 00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:15,659 from 86 or something like that Doug Doug 731 00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:25,279 just to let you know we will have we 732 00:31:30,379 --> 00:31:28,320 have some we have some questions that 733 00:31:33,529 --> 00:31:30,389 will be coming in to the chat room as 734 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:33,539 well as later on the second part of the 735 00:31:37,460 --> 00:31:35,850 second half of the show we can take some 736 00:31:39,950 --> 00:31:37,470 phone calls too if anyone wants to call 737 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:39,960 in and I'll give that number when that 738 00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:45,090 happens so so you have you just 739 00:31:52,850 --> 00:31:46,529 mentioned earlier you maybe have a 740 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:52,860 thousand hours yeah yeah and do you ever 741 00:31:57,289 --> 00:31:54,690 get do you ever I mean that would seem 742 00:32:00,440 --> 00:31:57,299 awfully boring to me I mean there's no 743 00:32:02,269 --> 00:32:00,450 way to not watch the screen I mean you 744 00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:02,279 can't have any like motion sensor 745 00:32:06,529 --> 00:32:04,289 everything's too far away so you have to 746 00:32:08,629 --> 00:32:06,539 be glued to it or well you with the 747 00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:08,639 video after if you really are serious 748 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:09,200 like 749 00:32:13,210 --> 00:32:11,330 and if you want to capture these things 750 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:13,220 that are roaming the skies traveling 751 00:32:18,130 --> 00:32:15,530 around in the skies you have to man your 752 00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:18,140 telescope or your your your what I call 753 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:20,000 it this guy watches mobile unit I got 754 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:22,970 three or four cameras with thermal I get 755 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:25,610 infrared I got two of them I also have 756 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:28,490 an HD camera four if I get those right 757 00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:30,290 bright objects really close I can get 758 00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:33,440 them in HD or 4k now that I have my got 759 00:32:37,060 --> 00:32:34,910 other equipment that I have attached to 760 00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:37,070 it you know EMF detectors all that stuff 761 00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:41,360 I even have a Geiger counter oh no it's 762 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:43,910 a setup so just in case for those you 763 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:45,530 know close close encounters that come 764 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:47,450 close and I've had three or four come 765 00:32:54,250 --> 00:32:51,290 really really close to my balcony so you 766 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:54,260 know it's it's just a matter of being 767 00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:56,810 out there a lot of people have cameras 768 00:33:00,280 --> 00:32:58,610 that they have motion detectors and they 769 00:33:01,660 --> 00:33:00,290 check their videos afterwards but 770 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:01,670 they're not man they're gonna miss out a 771 00:33:06,490 --> 00:33:04,010 lot and I can tell you that the probably 772 00:33:08,290 --> 00:33:06,500 gonna not see them and these things are 773 00:33:11,290 --> 00:33:08,300 pretty intelligent they know that you're 774 00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:11,300 filming them I know Mike they know it I 775 00:33:15,310 --> 00:33:13,760 I know you went out to Hawaii and you 776 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:15,320 spoke with Ted bro he's been on our show 777 00:33:20,770 --> 00:33:18,050 before I really like really liked Ted a 778 00:33:23,140 --> 00:33:20,780 lot did I don't know if he happened to 779 00:33:26,140 --> 00:33:23,150 tell you his story about the thing 780 00:33:28,330 --> 00:33:26,150 knowing where he was yes I oh my god 781 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:28,340 that is what's one of the scariest UFO 782 00:33:32,050 --> 00:33:29,690 stories I ever heard 783 00:33:33,850 --> 00:33:32,060 well Hawaii's got some interesting 784 00:33:35,740 --> 00:33:33,860 things going on over there that's why we 785 00:33:38,410 --> 00:33:35,750 went up there and not only to interview 786 00:33:40,540 --> 00:33:38,420 with Ted for the movie but also to do 787 00:33:42,010 --> 00:33:40,550 some sky watching unfortunately we 788 00:33:43,930 --> 00:33:42,020 didn't really get anything is so 789 00:33:46,150 --> 00:33:43,940 substantial we did capture something but 790 00:33:49,180 --> 00:33:46,160 it could have been it could have been a 791 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:49,190 bat we could have been a bird but I wish 792 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:50,210 I could have stayed there for a whole 793 00:33:54,430 --> 00:33:52,130 full week and gone to some of the areas 794 00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:54,440 where kid recommended because there's 795 00:33:58,540 --> 00:33:55,910 some interesting things going on there 796 00:34:00,490 --> 00:33:58,550 yeah well any excuse to go to Hawaii is 797 00:34:02,110 --> 00:34:00,500 not done anyway or absolutely 798 00:34:04,510 --> 00:34:02,120 now I'm gonna go probably again this 799 00:34:06,670 --> 00:34:04,520 year yeah yeah that's such a beautiful 800 00:34:10,330 --> 00:34:06,680 place now one of the people I've 801 00:34:12,610 --> 00:34:10,340 actually reached out to him before he 802 00:34:15,130 --> 00:34:12,620 said to try him again at some time is 803 00:34:17,740 --> 00:34:15,140 Dean and I don't know how to pronounce 804 00:34:19,770 --> 00:34:17,750 his last name goo leotis all right do it 805 00:34:21,820 --> 00:34:19,780 yeah yeah Dean yeah with the UFO theater 806 00:34:25,210 --> 00:34:21,830 yes 807 00:34:25,930 --> 00:34:25,220 he's a character the guys like we have 808 00:34:28,180 --> 00:34:25,940 him on the show 809 00:34:30,370 --> 00:34:28,190 can you explain to the audience exactly 810 00:34:32,919 --> 00:34:30,380 what he does and what's the name of his 811 00:34:36,370 --> 00:34:32,929 website again it's called UFO theater 812 00:34:38,260 --> 00:34:36,380 UFO theater yeah he's um he's got a 813 00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:38,270 background in a comedy to begin with 814 00:34:46,510 --> 00:34:42,800 yeah and his I guess his specialty or 815 00:34:51,370 --> 00:34:46,520 his experience that he has he's very 816 00:34:53,020 --> 00:34:51,380 very expert in CGI bottom line so what 817 00:34:57,070 --> 00:34:53,030 he's done he's got a real big passion 818 00:34:59,980 --> 00:34:57,080 for UFOs he sees a lot like you know 90% 819 00:35:02,710 --> 00:34:59,990 that's on YouTube is fake or hoaxes 820 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:02,720 people are making money off it and four 821 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:04,730 new people are coming on into into this 822 00:35:09,820 --> 00:35:07,490 community that want to see UFO for real 823 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:09,830 they're really serious well you know you 824 00:35:13,390 --> 00:35:11,330 go to youtube and you see some great 825 00:35:15,070 --> 00:35:13,400 stuff and then you know it could look 826 00:35:18,460 --> 00:35:15,080 real that could be possibly real but you 827 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:18,470 know it's fake so Dean has taken on this 828 00:35:22,810 --> 00:35:21,410 project to debunk a lot of these people 829 00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:22,820 and he's really got a passion to stop 830 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:25,520 these people from putting all this BS on 831 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:28,850 YouTube and he's an expert CGI so he can 832 00:35:34,030 --> 00:35:31,730 actually he's credible so if he says 833 00:35:36,090 --> 00:35:34,040 there's a video on the website or 834 00:35:39,010 --> 00:35:36,100 website they're you know promoting some 835 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:39,020 UFO video that they captured in leukemia 836 00:35:45,460 --> 00:35:41,570 or something like that she'll know it's 837 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:45,470 CGI right away yeah and so yeah yeah I 838 00:35:50,530 --> 00:35:48,050 think he's great to have but you know it 839 00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:50,540 doesn't really you know he can post his 840 00:35:54,570 --> 00:35:52,400 comment on YouTube but the the video 841 00:35:56,860 --> 00:35:54,580 still stays there which is unfortunate 842 00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:56,870 exactly but at least we're helping some 843 00:36:00,510 --> 00:35:58,850 of the people are coming into it to go 844 00:36:03,550 --> 00:36:00,520 guys don't listen to these people and 845 00:36:06,010 --> 00:36:03,560 really the majority are on YouTube are 846 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:06,020 either misidentifications and I like 847 00:36:12,850 --> 00:36:10,850 bats birds you know bugs or satellites 848 00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:12,860 is a real big one and Chinese lanterns 849 00:36:16,570 --> 00:36:15,920 or or for hoax videos you know a lot of 850 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:16,580 CGI 851 00:36:19,570 --> 00:36:18,290 and it's so easy to do it these days 852 00:36:21,580 --> 00:36:19,580 with the technology that we have 853 00:36:23,530 --> 00:36:21,590 available and people are getting away 854 00:36:26,770 --> 00:36:23,540 with it and some of them are making a 855 00:36:29,110 --> 00:36:26,780 lot of money I don't think that anyone 856 00:36:32,140 --> 00:36:29,120 and it's sad to even say how much money 857 00:36:33,730 --> 00:36:32,150 people are making because if I say how 858 00:36:35,150 --> 00:36:33,740 much they're maybe one may encourage 859 00:36:37,460 --> 00:36:35,160 more people 860 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:37,470 do it but there there is one that has 861 00:36:42,290 --> 00:36:39,930 millions and millions of views and that 862 00:36:44,180 --> 00:36:42,300 adds up to several thousand dollars many 863 00:36:46,220 --> 00:36:44,190 thousands of dollars well at least is a 864 00:36:48,830 --> 00:36:46,230 couple and I got booted off YouTube for 865 00:36:50,090 --> 00:36:48,840 fake ads good and won't mention their 866 00:36:51,230 --> 00:36:50,100 names because I don't want people to go 867 00:36:53,060 --> 00:36:51,240 there because I gotta get more credit 868 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:53,070 through quick baits it's what it's all 869 00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:55,770 about right there making a lot of money 870 00:37:00,200 --> 00:36:58,650 but he also has his own website now and 871 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:00,210 he's doing some other projects where 872 00:37:03,770 --> 00:37:01,890 he's still making money on this but 873 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:03,780 there's a huge crew of people I'm 874 00:37:07,940 --> 00:37:05,850 talking thousands of people that still 875 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:07,950 believe in what he's doing that is real 876 00:37:11,540 --> 00:37:10,050 yeah and that's add and I'll go ahead 877 00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:11,550 and mention it but just tell people to 878 00:37:18,290 --> 00:37:14,640 stay away secure team ten and three and 879 00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:18,300 three what is it third phases yeah those 880 00:37:24,980 --> 00:37:20,790 are to two places if you happen to land 881 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:24,990 on their channel run yeah I will say 882 00:37:30,050 --> 00:37:26,970 that there has been a couple of things 883 00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:30,060 on both of them that look you know like 884 00:37:35,810 --> 00:37:32,640 they may be something but for the most 885 00:37:38,690 --> 00:37:35,820 part it's CGI and and made-up stories 886 00:37:40,730 --> 00:37:38,700 and and you know they've been debunked 887 00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:40,740 in number of times well that when 888 00:37:45,380 --> 00:37:43,110 security team does a lot excuse me 889 00:37:47,150 --> 00:37:45,390 instead he grabs people's videos he 890 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:47,160 asked people to send them videos and he 891 00:37:52,450 --> 00:37:49,050 knows that they're missing identified 892 00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:52,460 videos captures of Chinese lanterns or 893 00:37:59,510 --> 00:37:55,680 you know a satellite or the ISS and 894 00:38:01,160 --> 00:37:59,520 he'll use it flip it around and make a 895 00:38:03,950 --> 00:38:01,170 little storyline out of it then make it 896 00:38:05,660 --> 00:38:03,960 look like it was a UFO sighting yeah and 897 00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:05,670 that's what he does the best and makes 898 00:38:12,770 --> 00:38:08,640 up stories and they're all lies yeah and 899 00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:12,780 a lot of us really hate well you know 900 00:38:19,070 --> 00:38:15,270 like you just mentioned what happens is 901 00:38:22,130 --> 00:38:19,080 if someone is that like just say 902 00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:22,140 recently this Pentagon you know secret 903 00:38:28,130 --> 00:38:25,710 UFO you know big big news splash so now 904 00:38:30,290 --> 00:38:28,140 there's a ton of people out there that 905 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:30,300 may have never had interest in it now 906 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:32,730 they're starting to look so what happens 907 00:38:37,490 --> 00:38:35,610 is someone gets into this this happens 908 00:38:39,050 --> 00:38:37,500 and what I do for work too and that is 909 00:38:41,150 --> 00:38:39,060 you know fine arts and antiques if 910 00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:41,160 someone if someone buys a fake then they 911 00:38:46,340 --> 00:38:43,920 stop collecting because it burns them 912 00:38:47,990 --> 00:38:46,350 and it's the same way if someone is 913 00:38:49,070 --> 00:38:48,000 thinking wow you know this is a real 914 00:38:50,930 --> 00:38:49,080 video look at 915 00:38:52,490 --> 00:38:50,940 this UFO and then it's a fake they're 916 00:38:54,860 --> 00:38:52,500 gonna say yeah heck with that I'm not 917 00:38:57,260 --> 00:38:54,870 going to waste any more time you know I 918 00:39:00,650 --> 00:38:57,270 actually had someone that used to work 919 00:39:03,650 --> 00:39:00,660 for the government contact me about a 920 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:03,660 couple of videos on YouTube and asked me 921 00:39:07,850 --> 00:39:06,450 my opinion of them and it ended up one 922 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:07,860 of them was secure team 10 923 00:39:12,460 --> 00:39:09,930 and I said no stay away from those and 924 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:12,470 this is uh this is someone that you know 925 00:39:18,050 --> 00:39:14,850 you know I probably shouldn't say any 926 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:18,060 more but but it's someone that he's been 927 00:39:24,250 --> 00:39:21,210 in the news lately so oh really yeah 928 00:39:27,230 --> 00:39:24,260 yeah interesting yeah very interesting 929 00:39:29,210 --> 00:39:27,240 so yeah I know the one in particular I 930 00:39:32,090 --> 00:39:29,220 saw in your documentary is the one in 931 00:39:33,890 --> 00:39:32,100 hate Haiti I believe it is that CGI one 932 00:39:35,930 --> 00:39:33,900 had millions and millions I'm hoping 933 00:39:39,020 --> 00:39:35,940 that's the one that got booted off yeah 934 00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:39,030 yeah a lot of them have but still they 935 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:40,710 still get the attention it's still 936 00:39:45,290 --> 00:39:42,810 flowing around social media and people 937 00:39:47,870 --> 00:39:45,300 are still believing in it and I think 938 00:39:49,940 --> 00:39:47,880 it's a lot when people I think the they 939 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:49,950 believe in it too the fact that you know 940 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:52,530 the possibility then they want to watch 941 00:39:56,810 --> 00:39:55,170 it but inside they know it's not real 942 00:39:59,000 --> 00:39:56,820 because it could be some fear base there 943 00:40:01,670 --> 00:39:59,010 as well so when they go see some of my 944 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:01,680 stuff they know it's really real it's a 945 00:40:05,150 --> 00:40:02,970 real thing this is a real phenomenon 946 00:40:07,310 --> 00:40:05,160 this I don't know what they are could be 947 00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:07,320 ailing it could be something else well 948 00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:08,910 people will go to it and go well that's 949 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:11,760 not a UFO it's not got a hat on and it's 950 00:40:15,380 --> 00:40:13,410 not spinning it's not gray it's not a 951 00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:15,390 triangle with lights and there's no 952 00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:17,040 windows in there with little grey aliens 953 00:40:22,010 --> 00:40:19,260 doing this right so they get bored 954 00:40:23,870 --> 00:40:22,020 really fast and obviously it if it is 955 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:23,880 real well that's close to coming close 956 00:40:27,890 --> 00:40:25,770 to the people's buildings in there and 957 00:40:30,380 --> 00:40:27,900 their windows that's fear-based I don't 958 00:40:32,270 --> 00:40:30,390 want to watch this I can't be true so 959 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:32,280 there's two reasons for why people don't 960 00:40:38,330 --> 00:40:35,970 like to see the real thing yeah yeah we 961 00:40:42,170 --> 00:40:38,340 have up on the video and on YouTube 962 00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:42,180 right now is the orange orb now which i 963 00:40:47,690 --> 00:40:43,920 think is a fascinating video that you 964 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:47,700 took yeah I think it's 2016 maybe you 965 00:40:52,130 --> 00:40:50,850 took a 2016 yeah so can you talk about 966 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:52,140 that one in particular 967 00:40:58,250 --> 00:40:54,450 yeah look at like I do every night I 968 00:40:59,930 --> 00:40:58,260 scan the skies III appear in my 969 00:41:02,210 --> 00:40:59,940 apartment that I'm on the 21st floor or 970 00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:02,220 looking downtown Vancouver and in the 971 00:41:04,759 --> 00:41:03,119 north side West 972 00:41:07,609 --> 00:41:04,769 northwest side or southwest side and I 973 00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:07,619 have debate the ocean is right there 974 00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:10,529 so I usually scan from south to north 975 00:41:16,789 --> 00:41:13,920 and I do that regularly and I just feel 976 00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:16,799 like I spice like a pie you know I take 977 00:41:20,359 --> 00:41:18,240 pieces of this guy so I've been just 978 00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:20,369 doing my natural scan there you know did 979 00:41:24,730 --> 00:41:21,990 about five minutes into my scan and they 980 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:24,740 saw these two orange orbs coming in 981 00:41:30,019 --> 00:41:28,410 immediately you know I they were out of 982 00:41:32,569 --> 00:41:30,029 focus right away they could be right 983 00:41:34,579 --> 00:41:32,579 away maybe a bird could be a bat could 984 00:41:37,970 --> 00:41:34,589 even be a moth close up from 20 feet 985 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:37,980 away but I resolved it once I resolved 986 00:41:42,970 --> 00:41:40,650 it I knew this was a sphere I resulted 987 00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:42,980 it was completely perfectly circle and 988 00:41:49,549 --> 00:41:47,460 ORS are circle completely round and it 989 00:41:51,529 --> 00:41:49,559 was translucent and they were moving 990 00:41:52,940 --> 00:41:51,539 with a tent and there was no wind at all 991 00:41:54,410 --> 00:41:52,950 and they were coming in from the top 992 00:41:57,380 --> 00:41:54,420 from about 80 degrees above the horizon 993 00:41:59,900 --> 00:41:57,390 and they're settling down and then they 994 00:42:01,309 --> 00:41:59,910 started coming from straight up coming 995 00:42:03,620 --> 00:42:01,319 in from the south and going towards the 996 00:42:05,930 --> 00:42:03,630 north north northeast and then they 997 00:42:08,569 --> 00:42:05,940 circled around and there's no wind I'm 998 00:42:10,609 --> 00:42:08,579 on the 21st floor I did one of these and 999 00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:10,619 feel any wind at all and this thing 1000 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:12,960 changed direction four times now look if 1001 00:42:17,569 --> 00:42:14,730 there was a wind current was higher up 1002 00:42:20,059 --> 00:42:17,579 if a balloon or a piece of paper or 1003 00:42:24,650 --> 00:42:20,069 garbage it would switch around like this 1004 00:42:28,220 --> 00:42:24,660 right it would flow nicely stop midair 1005 00:42:30,650 --> 00:42:28,230 turn around to a complete circle and it 1006 00:42:32,329 --> 00:42:30,660 went towards where they're building new 1007 00:42:35,569 --> 00:42:32,339 condominiums about three hundred meters 1008 00:42:37,970 --> 00:42:35,579 from me so I kept on filming it and it 1009 00:42:41,329 --> 00:42:37,980 got closer to the condominiums apartment 1010 00:42:43,339 --> 00:42:41,339 complexes so the the Kahneman's windows 1011 00:42:45,650 --> 00:42:43,349 and there's a lot of light there's 1012 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:45,660 actually lights on the crane and it 1013 00:42:51,170 --> 00:42:48,450 wasn't radiating that light on to this 1014 00:42:55,130 --> 00:42:51,180 object so right away you know that's not 1015 00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:55,140 a man made of matter at all it was it 1016 00:42:59,809 --> 00:42:57,119 wasn't a piece of garbage it wasn't a 1017 00:43:01,549 --> 00:42:59,819 bird wasn't an insect or anything 1018 00:43:04,220 --> 00:43:01,559 officer was an insect because it was at 1019 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:04,230 least the size of a basketball and the 1020 00:43:08,289 --> 00:43:06,450 fact it was translucent on the raw video 1021 00:43:11,089 --> 00:43:08,299 footage you can't really tell on YouTube 1022 00:43:12,410 --> 00:43:11,099 you can actually see Cometh plasma you 1023 00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:12,420 know those plasma little balls that you 1024 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:13,680 play with there and you put your hand on 1025 00:43:16,820 --> 00:43:15,330 it it's just plasma and it was 1026 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:16,830 moving around like that it's really 1027 00:43:22,180 --> 00:43:19,410 amazing when you zoom in on it on the 1028 00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:22,190 raw video footage it's made of plasma 1029 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:24,720 best thing that really had ruled out 1030 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:28,170 anything else other than a UFO is that I 1031 00:43:33,740 --> 00:43:30,690 had a thermal on it and just before 1032 00:43:35,570 --> 00:43:33,750 capturing them on video I had a bird go 1033 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:35,580 by my thermal camera and you can see a 1034 00:43:39,230 --> 00:43:37,650 little white object go by and the birds 1035 00:43:41,150 --> 00:43:39,240 that come around here even the bats 1036 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:41,160 they're only about this big of finches 1037 00:43:46,010 --> 00:43:42,690 and baths are only about three or four 1038 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:46,020 inches long so this object was at least 1039 00:43:50,300 --> 00:43:47,810 the size of a volleyball basketball 1040 00:43:53,150 --> 00:43:50,310 because I had to focus in on it so it 1041 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:53,160 was within a hundred feet so I know my 1042 00:43:56,270 --> 00:43:54,690 camera's very well I know my skies to 1043 00:43:58,190 --> 00:43:56,280 know my environment so I can make that 1044 00:44:01,070 --> 00:43:58,200 judgment right away so immediately I 1045 00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:01,080 knew it was an orb a sphere and because 1046 00:44:06,020 --> 00:44:03,720 it did not get picked up on thermal it 1047 00:44:08,740 --> 00:44:06,030 must have been made by light it was a 1048 00:44:11,330 --> 00:44:08,750 light anomaly so light plasma is light 1049 00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:11,340 there's no heat or cold ferment unless 1050 00:44:16,340 --> 00:44:13,680 the the heat signature or the cold 1051 00:44:18,350 --> 00:44:16,350 signature was exactly as the background 1052 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:18,360 temperature of the sky that's how the 1053 00:44:22,370 --> 00:44:20,010 only way would be hidden from the 1054 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:22,380 background of the sky but I hadn't 1055 00:44:26,690 --> 00:44:24,570 zoomed in behind you know there was a 1056 00:44:28,310 --> 00:44:26,700 building behind it and everything but I 1057 00:44:30,860 --> 00:44:28,320 still could not resolve it on thermal 1058 00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:30,870 which means it was light it was a plasma 1059 00:44:34,970 --> 00:44:32,730 ball husband ball that was running 1060 00:44:38,180 --> 00:44:34,980 around with intense it was intelligent 1061 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:38,190 yeah no I saw I saw a picture of you and 1062 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:42,570 Erica Luc's and Erica was doing a lot of 1063 00:44:47,390 --> 00:44:45,810 research on the orange orbs yeah what 1064 00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:47,400 you did you show her that particular 1065 00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:49,710 video no I didn't capture it at that 1066 00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:53,040 time that was a 2016 I met her in 2015 1067 00:44:57,790 --> 00:44:56,160 during the making of my film but I 1068 00:45:00,050 --> 00:44:57,800 showed her ever orange orbs I do have 1069 00:45:01,610 --> 00:45:00,060 which I have some on YouTube and I have 1070 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:01,620 some of my computer right here and I 1071 00:45:05,090 --> 00:45:03,810 think I may have some on my documentary 1072 00:45:07,070 --> 00:45:05,100 I'm not sure if there's another orange 1073 00:45:08,450 --> 00:45:07,080 orb there I have a few other ones there 1074 00:45:11,630 --> 00:45:08,460 on the documentary that weren't orange 1075 00:45:13,460 --> 00:45:11,640 but there's just as significant this one 1076 00:45:15,220 --> 00:45:13,470 was not put in the documentary because 1077 00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:15,230 it was just recently captured last year 1078 00:45:23,630 --> 00:45:20,400 obviously I was at 16 right right so as 1079 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:23,640 far as when you made that when you made 1080 00:45:28,910 --> 00:45:27,570 that video you had you had a lot of help 1081 00:45:30,650 --> 00:45:28,920 obviously did was her 1082 00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:30,660 like a storyline and you just kind of 1083 00:45:35,690 --> 00:45:34,110 went by that or yeah yeah and then and 1084 00:45:38,570 --> 00:45:35,700 these videos were edited it's a 1085 00:45:40,940 --> 00:45:38,580 beautiful job whoever did to our Don 1086 00:45:44,830 --> 00:45:40,950 West productions her name is Fredrik 1087 00:45:46,850 --> 00:45:44,840 Remy she's the producer director of I 1088 00:45:49,580 --> 00:45:46,860 co-produced it and she was a director 1089 00:45:51,590 --> 00:45:49,590 for the for the video for the film she's 1090 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:51,600 got a lot of experience she's done some 1091 00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:53,490 great work she's doing two or three more 1092 00:45:57,530 --> 00:45:56,160 documentaries right now she's originally 1093 00:46:00,770 --> 00:45:57,540 from France but she's not a Canadian 1094 00:46:02,690 --> 00:46:00,780 citizen here in Vancouver so she has 1095 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:02,700 passion for UFOs as well and she fell me 1096 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:04,650 on YouTube and she gave me a call I said 1097 00:46:09,110 --> 00:46:06,810 sure so we did story my story so she 1098 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:09,120 wrote up the script while we did the 1099 00:46:13,340 --> 00:46:11,130 script together and this is how we're 1100 00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:13,350 gonna do it and then she directed the 1101 00:46:16,670 --> 00:46:14,880 film and of course I called producer 1102 00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:16,680 though as well so it was really fun we 1103 00:46:20,420 --> 00:46:17,280 had a blast 1104 00:46:22,610 --> 00:46:20,430 offensive yeah yes it was worth it yeah 1105 00:46:24,380 --> 00:46:22,620 definitely worth it and a lot of people 1106 00:46:25,970 --> 00:46:24,390 have out you know you're charging five 1107 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:25,980 dollars to watch it I've watched it 1108 00:46:30,830 --> 00:46:27,690 twice and it was money well well worth 1109 00:46:34,070 --> 00:46:30,840 spent and I know that the thing that 1110 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:34,080 most people don't get out there is they 1111 00:46:42,910 --> 00:46:35,450 think that you're making a lot of money 1112 00:46:49,340 --> 00:46:46,490 it happens it has to be a passion thing 1113 00:46:52,190 --> 00:46:49,350 or you know yeah that's why I want to do 1114 00:46:56,210 --> 00:46:52,200 it you know we both put somewhere our 1115 00:46:58,910 --> 00:46:56,220 money in it and it's something that she 1116 00:47:00,560 --> 00:46:58,920 want to do for her own reasons and 1117 00:47:03,490 --> 00:47:00,570 because he has a passion for UFOs as 1118 00:47:06,410 --> 00:47:03,500 well and she learned a lot with me and 1119 00:47:10,070 --> 00:47:06,420 we got to see a lot of great countryside 1120 00:47:12,070 --> 00:47:10,080 you know in Canada u.s. Hawaii and some 1121 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:12,080 opportunities to see UFOs and gone to a 1122 00:47:17,300 --> 00:47:15,570 conference as well but it was a great 1123 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:17,310 experience but the story I want the 1124 00:47:21,140 --> 00:47:18,810 story told I want people to learn from 1125 00:47:24,140 --> 00:47:21,150 that and what people say that yes this 1126 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:24,150 does exist this is not a YouTube video 1127 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:26,610 from security more third phase of moon 1128 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:28,650 that they're hoaxing a bunch of stuff 1129 00:47:32,930 --> 00:47:31,170 these are real things in our skies and I 1130 00:47:35,180 --> 00:47:32,940 even after that I created a website 1131 00:47:37,940 --> 00:47:35,190 called static 8 films you know the 1132 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:37,950 number 8 like the infinity 8 where I'm 1133 00:47:42,289 --> 00:47:39,570 gonna be putting a lot of educational 1134 00:47:45,259 --> 00:47:42,299 videos how to video 1135 00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:45,269 Falls because anybody can it's just not 1136 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:47,369 really that's really great to know 1137 00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:49,410 that's really that's gonna be great 1138 00:47:53,029 --> 00:47:51,689 information and I'd appreciate if you 1139 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:53,039 let me know when that's up and going 1140 00:47:56,900 --> 00:47:55,410 because I will I will put that and I 1141 00:47:59,269 --> 00:47:56,910 will link that to my website 1142 00:48:01,009 --> 00:47:59,279 now what about daytime sightings I know 1143 00:48:03,529 --> 00:48:01,019 you have all that great nighttime vision 1144 00:48:05,749 --> 00:48:03,539 and all that but have you ever had any 1145 00:48:08,689 --> 00:48:05,759 daytime sightings I think I was out 1146 00:48:10,910 --> 00:48:08,699 think I've had one but it's very 1147 00:48:13,819 --> 00:48:10,920 difficult daytime is very specific it's 1148 00:48:17,179 --> 00:48:13,829 very different from nighttime you use 1149 00:48:19,999 --> 00:48:17,189 infrared as well in daytime with using 1150 00:48:24,979 --> 00:48:20,009 ND filters on a HD camera that has 1151 00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:24,989 infrared or the IR filter or the IR 1152 00:48:29,089 --> 00:48:26,609 block filter removed right so I have a 1153 00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:29,099 Canon X 810 that has actually night 1154 00:48:33,259 --> 00:48:30,689 vision you just click it on and off but 1155 00:48:35,269 --> 00:48:33,269 you got to put really strong ND filters 1156 00:48:37,209 --> 00:48:35,279 on it because otherwise it'll be all 1157 00:48:40,279 --> 00:48:37,219 just white right because it's daytime 1158 00:48:42,829 --> 00:48:40,289 but because of night vision or infrared 1159 00:48:46,759 --> 00:48:42,839 in the daytime there's a lot of things 1160 00:48:48,829 --> 00:48:46,769 in the skies from depending on time of 1161 00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:48,839 the year you get a lot of flying seeds 1162 00:48:55,609 --> 00:48:52,529 you get balloons you get garbage paper 1163 00:48:57,859 --> 00:48:55,619 or anything else bags I mean bags fly 1164 00:48:59,989 --> 00:48:57,869 around oh gosh anything that you would 1165 00:49:02,749 --> 00:48:59,999 not even see with the naked eye infrared 1166 00:49:04,699 --> 00:49:02,759 in the daytime will pick it up and it'll 1167 00:49:09,890 --> 00:49:04,709 really shine and brighten up if you have 1168 00:49:12,380 --> 00:49:09,900 really sensitive our camera so and you 1169 00:49:14,929 --> 00:49:12,390 know mylar balloons will really reflect 1170 00:49:16,729 --> 00:49:14,939 off a lot of the Sun and they will look 1171 00:49:19,279 --> 00:49:16,739 like UFOs a lot of people still do 1172 00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:19,289 daytime and they capture objects and I 1173 00:49:24,069 --> 00:49:21,119 can't save one way or another if it's a 1174 00:49:26,509 --> 00:49:24,079 UFO or not I I've got to learn now 1175 00:49:28,219 --> 00:49:26,519 behavior of the objects as more 1176 00:49:30,979 --> 00:49:28,229 important the actual object itself 1177 00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:30,989 because a lot of them actually can mimic 1178 00:49:34,999 --> 00:49:33,689 a you afford or and think the majority 1179 00:49:36,769 --> 00:49:35,009 of the sightings that we're seeing in 1180 00:49:40,219 --> 00:49:36,779 infrared anyways are these lights in the 1181 00:49:42,349 --> 00:49:40,229 sky they're not necessarily triangle 1182 00:49:43,759 --> 00:49:42,359 shapes or saucers even though they've 1183 00:49:45,620 --> 00:49:43,769 been reported with the naked eye all 1184 00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:45,630 around the world I've never seen one 1185 00:49:48,219 --> 00:49:47,609 except for one we talk about that later 1186 00:49:51,469 --> 00:49:48,229 if you like 1187 00:49:54,410 --> 00:49:51,479 welcome now one of the things I want to 1188 00:49:56,210 --> 00:49:54,420 talk about the heat signature now when 1189 00:49:58,220 --> 00:49:56,220 you see a heat signature in 1190 00:49:59,930 --> 00:49:58,230 the sky one of the things I was thinking 1191 00:50:03,890 --> 00:49:59,940 about and just correct me if I'm wrong 1192 00:50:06,170 --> 00:50:03,900 but if you have say a grouping of 1193 00:50:08,359 --> 00:50:06,180 balloons on the ground and then you 1194 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:08,369 release them well isn't the temperature 1195 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:10,530 on the ground a lot warmer than it is 1196 00:50:13,970 --> 00:50:12,690 when it gets an upper in the upper air 1197 00:50:16,310 --> 00:50:13,980 and so it would show a heat signature 1198 00:50:19,150 --> 00:50:16,320 yeah exactly and will show a heat 1199 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:19,160 signature because the the balloon itself 1200 00:50:25,730 --> 00:50:22,410 is relatively warm it's room temperature 1201 00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:25,740 right just it's anything that's you know 1202 00:50:30,290 --> 00:50:27,599 not heated up artificially heated up or 1203 00:50:32,420 --> 00:50:30,300 cold it's it's gonna be around you know 1204 00:50:33,740 --> 00:50:32,430 90 degrees in I seven degrees but 1205 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:33,750 whatever the temperature outside could 1206 00:50:38,450 --> 00:50:35,970 be 72 degrees Fahrenheit I'm using 1207 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:38,460 Fahrenheit but the background sky is a 1208 00:50:44,599 --> 00:50:41,490 lot cooler so if you're using it a 1209 00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:44,609 thermal device if it's only black for 1210 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:46,710 black hot or white for white hot and 1211 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:48,930 you're not using a color palette it will 1212 00:50:54,170 --> 00:50:52,170 look like it's hot like wow that's hot 1213 00:50:56,330 --> 00:50:54,180 signature that's gonna be hot it's hot 1214 00:50:58,910 --> 00:50:56,340 but no it's just me and it's warmer than 1215 00:51:02,570 --> 00:50:58,920 the background of the sky or whatever it 1216 00:51:04,310 --> 00:51:02,580 is it's behind so a sky on average in 1217 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:04,320 the summer time depending of course the 1218 00:51:08,180 --> 00:51:06,690 type of thermal device you have I have a 1219 00:51:10,430 --> 00:51:08,190 little ones called the therm app it's 1220 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:10,440 pretty good sensor but you know the 1221 00:51:15,170 --> 00:51:12,570 Reach's you know probably two maybe a 1222 00:51:18,050 --> 00:51:15,180 mile or a half a mile up in the sky it's 1223 00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:18,060 a minus ten degrees Celsius so the 1224 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:20,730 balloon is referring to the background 1225 00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:22,290 temperature of minus 10 so of course 1226 00:51:26,660 --> 00:51:24,480 it's going to be black hot I didn't know 1227 00:51:28,250 --> 00:51:26,670 that when I first did it like oh my god 1228 00:51:30,290 --> 00:51:28,260 there's a UFO it's like it's black hi 1229 00:51:33,620 --> 00:51:30,300 Scotty hot is young but no it's just a 1230 00:51:34,970 --> 00:51:33,630 balloon great literature so it's you 1231 00:51:37,940 --> 00:51:34,980 have to use a color palette then you can 1232 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:37,950 get the real temperature on it I see now 1233 00:51:42,349 --> 00:51:39,690 what about I heard you mentioned 1234 00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:42,359 distance a couple of times and that is 1235 00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:44,609 something that is very difficult to 1236 00:51:49,730 --> 00:51:47,250 judge generally speaking unless this 1237 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:49,740 triangulation so how do how are you 1238 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:51,770 coming up with those advances 1239 00:51:56,359 --> 00:51:54,210 specifically for me I use range finders 1240 00:51:58,490 --> 00:51:56,369 I got a range finder I know my 1241 00:52:00,829 --> 00:51:58,500 environment from the buildings the only 1242 00:52:01,940 --> 00:52:00,839 time is very difficult when it's 1243 00:52:04,700 --> 00:52:01,950 straight up in the sky and I got no 1244 00:52:06,530 --> 00:52:04,710 reference Melissa's overhead by the 1245 00:52:08,660 --> 00:52:06,540 clouds up in the clouds and I could 1246 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:08,670 check where the coverages on you know 1247 00:52:14,670 --> 00:52:09,130 weather 1248 00:52:17,940 --> 00:52:14,680 rangefinders I know the buildings around 1249 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:17,950 me and specifically my my Luna optics 1250 00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:20,410 digital night vision that I have and I 1251 00:52:25,350 --> 00:52:23,680 used predominantly because I am around a 1252 00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:25,360 lot of light pollution if I use the 1253 00:52:31,590 --> 00:52:28,720 generation 3 which I'd love to have it 1254 00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:31,600 be too strong for the city because you'd 1255 00:52:34,980 --> 00:52:33,040 be given a lot of people air everywhere 1256 00:52:37,230 --> 00:52:34,990 because of the light pollution but with 1257 00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:37,240 a digital night vision it's made it's 1258 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:39,280 got it's automatic gain you won't get 1259 00:52:43,290 --> 00:52:41,530 those big glows right the big flashes of 1260 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:43,300 light even though sometimes it does with 1261 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:45,130 bright lights you can still use those 1262 00:52:50,190 --> 00:52:47,050 night vision devices in the daytime so 1263 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:50,200 that's what's beautiful about it I know 1264 00:52:54,210 --> 00:52:52,690 with this device I have it's a 40 1265 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:54,220 millimeter lens on it 1266 00:52:59,520 --> 00:52:56,890 if I have to focus in and on an object 1267 00:53:02,310 --> 00:52:59,530 if it's a first of all if it's if it's 1268 00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:02,320 blurred and I'm zooming in on it I know 1269 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:05,440 it's within 100 feet and if I have to 1270 00:53:09,210 --> 00:53:07,210 focus in on it because the Infinity on 1271 00:53:13,830 --> 00:53:09,220 that camera that I have is a hundred 1272 00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:13,840 feet plus anything within 100 feet if 1273 00:53:18,750 --> 00:53:16,510 it's if it's if it's blurry it's within 1274 00:53:20,190 --> 00:53:18,760 100 feet of me so that's the closest I 1275 00:53:22,260 --> 00:53:20,200 can get and of course depending on the 1276 00:53:24,690 --> 00:53:22,270 buildings around I can get pretty close 1277 00:53:26,430 --> 00:53:24,700 to you know how far it is from me and a 1278 00:53:29,310 --> 00:53:26,440 lot of my objects believe it or not are 1279 00:53:31,380 --> 00:53:29,320 within 100 to 300 feet from me except 1280 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:31,390 for the high-flying ones that eject 1281 00:53:36,660 --> 00:53:34,530 objects it could be as high as it as the 1282 00:53:39,860 --> 00:53:36,670 as a plane so it could be thirty 1283 00:53:43,170 --> 00:53:39,870 thousand feet up I have no idea and I 1284 00:53:45,150 --> 00:53:43,180 what about where you live are there 1285 00:53:48,110 --> 00:53:45,160 other people reporting sightings there 1286 00:53:51,420 --> 00:53:48,120 or is it just what there are okay yeah 1287 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:51,430 that's great you brought this up I had a 1288 00:53:57,390 --> 00:53:55,450 sighting back in 2015 it's on MUFON I 1289 00:54:00,030 --> 00:53:57,400 have it somewhere I'd have to send it to 1290 00:54:04,350 --> 00:54:00,040 you and I had no idea about this person 1291 00:54:07,410 --> 00:54:04,360 about 2015 or 2013 I can't remember I 1292 00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:07,420 had a laser I had a laser as an infrared 1293 00:54:11,220 --> 00:54:09,730 laser and I was playing around with an 1294 00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:11,230 orb one night and this is an infrared 1295 00:54:14,430 --> 00:54:12,640 laser you can't see with the naked eye 1296 00:54:16,170 --> 00:54:14,440 but I was getting frustrated because 1297 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:16,180 they were coming around my balcony a lot 1298 00:54:22,050 --> 00:54:20,170 in 2012-2013 but they would come very 1299 00:54:22,279 --> 00:54:22,060 close to me and they would stop and tell 1300 00:54:23,779 --> 00:54:22,289 me 1301 00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:23,789 who they are what they are I was getting 1302 00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:25,529 frustrated but there's one dose coming 1303 00:54:28,969 --> 00:54:27,569 around and I have my laser out and I was 1304 00:54:31,429 --> 00:54:28,979 playing with it and I hit it with the 1305 00:54:33,469 --> 00:54:31,439 laser and it flared up it would came up 1306 00:54:34,999 --> 00:54:33,479 to the size of a beach ball and then it 1307 00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:35,009 was just a point of light on my night 1308 00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:37,169 vision it was just a speck so I thought 1309 00:54:40,339 --> 00:54:38,880 it was really small but it was actually 1310 00:54:43,249 --> 00:54:40,349 a size of the beach ball when the laser 1311 00:54:45,469 --> 00:54:43,259 hit it and I did that I lost it it took 1312 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:45,479 off I guess I scared it I don't know so 1313 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:47,130 I was packing in my cameras five minutes 1314 00:54:53,449 --> 00:54:50,729 later this is three large orange amber 1315 00:54:55,759 --> 00:54:53,459 spheres I just popped up over the 1316 00:54:57,529 --> 00:54:55,769 Granville Street bridge I don't know 1317 00:54:59,719 --> 00:54:57,539 over a thousand feet maybe because it 1318 00:55:02,509 --> 00:54:59,729 felt like they were mere that I can see 1319 00:55:05,539 --> 00:55:02,519 almost detail but it was I could see it 1320 00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:05,549 it was a craft but it was plasma it was 1321 00:55:11,029 --> 00:55:08,160 like plasma but it was darker ever 1322 00:55:13,789 --> 00:55:11,039 orange Bert orange a tree the size of 1323 00:55:16,819 --> 00:55:13,799 cars and they just blinked up and 1324 00:55:18,499 --> 00:55:16,829 they're moving towards me I ran into my 1325 00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,509 balcony from my balcony into my house 1326 00:55:23,449 --> 00:55:20,640 that's all scared of God because it was 1327 00:55:25,729 --> 00:55:23,459 so large and I thought okay I got one of 1328 00:55:27,289 --> 00:55:25,739 those oars pissed off I don't know so I 1329 00:55:29,359 --> 00:55:27,299 closed my blinds and I'm peeking through 1330 00:55:31,489 --> 00:55:29,369 the blinds at these three large orange 1331 00:55:34,759 --> 00:55:31,499 objects coming towards me and then one 1332 00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:34,769 blinked off one at a time so lasted 1333 00:55:38,599 --> 00:55:37,049 about 10 12 seconds so the first one 1334 00:55:40,489 --> 00:55:38,609 blinked out the second one kept on 1335 00:55:42,140 --> 00:55:40,499 moving towards me it blinked out the 1336 00:55:44,059 --> 00:55:42,150 third one came towards me and blinged 1337 00:55:45,949 --> 00:55:44,069 out so then I went back in my balcony 1338 00:55:47,329 --> 00:55:45,959 grabbed my night vision sheets are still 1339 00:55:51,769 --> 00:55:47,339 around and they weren't they're all gone 1340 00:55:54,319 --> 00:55:51,779 so just recently about two months ago 1341 00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:54,329 someone contacted me found my facebook 1342 00:55:58,609 --> 00:55:56,640 grew up a page mend my youtube channel 1343 00:56:02,199 --> 00:55:58,619 my email sent me an email 1344 00:56:05,299 --> 00:56:02,209 Charles I just saw your video and you're 1345 00:56:07,399 --> 00:56:05,309 I had to actually have another interview 1346 00:56:09,890 --> 00:56:07,409 and I explained this situation before 1347 00:56:12,949 --> 00:56:09,900 she had seen it she was I saw the same 1348 00:56:14,989 --> 00:56:12,959 three orange spheres I was right 1349 00:56:17,299 --> 00:56:14,999 underneath it on Granville Island I was 1350 00:56:20,179 --> 00:56:17,309 rollerblading and I took a break and I 1351 00:56:22,819 --> 00:56:20,189 saw it she even sent the photo to not 1352 00:56:24,949 --> 00:56:22,829 afford about am someone did a nice 1353 00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:24,959 actually representation painting of it 1354 00:56:29,749 --> 00:56:27,119 and sent it to MUFON and so if you go to 1355 00:56:31,219 --> 00:56:29,759 the MUFON back and I I have to give you 1356 00:56:34,099 --> 00:56:31,229 the dates the exact dates 1357 00:56:36,170 --> 00:56:34,109 there's my report and her report side by 1358 00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:36,180 side and there are only off by 1359 00:56:41,210 --> 00:56:38,730 one day what I did is when I posted my 1360 00:56:42,500 --> 00:56:41,220 UFO video of the orcs that was playing 1361 00:56:45,500 --> 00:56:42,510 around for laser it was the same night 1362 00:56:48,109 --> 00:56:45,510 but I posted the night I made the video 1363 00:56:49,940 --> 00:56:48,119 but I had Patrick the night before you 1364 00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:49,950 know the only difference is the date but 1365 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:52,710 the minutes were almost identical so you 1366 00:56:56,720 --> 00:56:54,930 know is valid it was a valid signing 1367 00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:56,730 she's seeing the same thing but she was 1368 00:57:00,920 --> 00:56:58,650 right underneath it and what she saw she 1369 00:57:04,130 --> 00:57:00,930 saw these three authors not disappear 1370 00:57:06,620 --> 00:57:04,140 but come down really fast from up there 1371 00:57:08,660 --> 00:57:06,630 and come close to where she was at about 1372 00:57:10,309 --> 00:57:08,670 two storey building and she said there 1373 00:57:13,099 --> 00:57:10,319 were size of a cars through evil and 1374 00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:13,109 then they cleaned oh so I don't think 1375 00:57:16,460 --> 00:57:14,250 they really blinked out I think they 1376 00:57:18,849 --> 00:57:16,470 went so fast I didn't notice it well I 1377 00:57:21,470 --> 00:57:18,859 was hiding behind a blind first of all 1378 00:57:23,630 --> 00:57:21,480 well there's a lot of people speculating 1379 00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:23,640 about that whole thing you know the 1380 00:57:28,190 --> 00:57:25,680 wooden they things do seem to blink out 1381 00:57:30,410 --> 00:57:28,200 or just absolutely vanish instantly and 1382 00:57:32,210 --> 00:57:30,420 sometimes come back you know a lot of 1383 00:57:34,730 --> 00:57:32,220 people are speculating about that you 1384 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:34,740 hear people say well maybe they're you 1385 00:57:39,079 --> 00:57:36,690 know from another dimension or you know 1386 00:57:41,859 --> 00:57:39,089 this or that or maybe they can travel in 1387 00:57:44,359 --> 00:57:41,869 ways we don't know you know I don't know 1388 00:57:46,190 --> 00:57:44,369 if this is true what happened with this 1389 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:46,200 woman she saw you know you either she 1390 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:47,130 saw something different 1391 00:57:50,599 --> 00:57:48,450 after I seen them blink out and they 1392 00:57:52,789 --> 00:57:50,609 came back and I just their Lord because 1393 00:57:54,260 --> 00:57:52,799 I couldn't see it from where I was but 1394 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:54,270 it could be a possibility these things 1395 00:57:58,430 --> 00:57:56,730 you know are flying at the speed of 1396 00:58:00,289 --> 00:57:58,440 light and you won't be able to see with 1397 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:00,299 the naked eye and now moving from one 1398 00:58:03,710 --> 00:58:01,890 section of the sky to the other section 1399 00:58:05,630 --> 00:58:03,720 of the sky and that's a very big 1400 00:58:08,660 --> 00:58:05,640 possibility yeah rather than just 1401 00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:08,670 blinking out or you know I I don't know 1402 00:58:12,530 --> 00:58:10,319 if they're coming from a different 1403 00:58:14,180 --> 00:58:12,540 dimension or haunted yeah that's true I 1404 00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:14,190 mean they could just absolutely do that 1405 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:16,559 I mean people do have talked about them 1406 00:58:20,750 --> 00:58:18,450 just you know flying off and especially 1407 00:58:22,819 --> 00:58:20,760 when they're tracking them you know the 1408 00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:22,829 ones are actually tracked on radar that 1409 00:58:27,500 --> 00:58:24,510 do all these bizarre things those that 1410 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:27,510 were pretty exciting to me anyway you 1411 00:58:31,010 --> 00:58:29,490 know because those are even more hard to 1412 00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:31,020 explain because there's actually data 1413 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:32,640 yeah absolutely 1414 00:58:36,890 --> 00:58:34,890 now what about your friend in or the 1415 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:36,900 person you spoke to in Pennsylvania that 1416 00:58:42,170 --> 00:58:38,970 has been filming similar things to you 1417 00:58:45,710 --> 00:58:42,180 yeah Alison Cruz oh that's Alison Cruz 1418 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:45,720 yeah yeah okay he's got she was one of 1419 00:58:48,340 --> 00:58:47,250 the reasons why I bought a night vision 1420 00:58:50,250 --> 00:58:48,350 device 1421 00:58:53,380 --> 00:58:50,260 I was following some of her work and 1422 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:53,390 some of her object says she's filmed a 1423 00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:55,130 night vision identical to what I have 1424 00:59:00,910 --> 00:58:57,920 felt if you saw my documentary we put it 1425 00:59:04,540 --> 00:59:00,920 side by side of a co-star assimilates 1426 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:04,550 yeah and and they she eject objects and 1427 00:59:07,300 --> 00:59:05,330 they're identical 1428 00:59:09,940 --> 00:59:07,310 they shoot then they wiggled towards the 1429 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:09,950 ground and I just captured one just last 1430 00:59:15,609 --> 00:59:13,010 year a small little org um I don't think 1431 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:15,619 you've seen it over where I live is 1432 00:59:19,660 --> 00:59:16,850 about I only had two feet away was a 1433 00:59:21,730 --> 00:59:19,670 small sphere a small orb and it came 1434 00:59:24,220 --> 00:59:21,740 down and it just kind of overlooked 1435 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:24,230 where Deadpool was doing the movie set 1436 00:59:27,609 --> 00:59:26,090 to the movie set it was a disaster area 1437 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:27,619 so it was in that area but was at 1438 00:59:32,290 --> 00:59:29,690 nighttime stopped it look at the 1439 00:59:35,050 --> 00:59:32,300 Deadpool set and went up stopped and 1440 00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:35,060 then it took off and then ejected 1441 00:59:39,700 --> 00:59:37,280 something again so what are the 1442 00:59:42,340 --> 00:59:39,710 injecting had no idea what that is but 1443 00:59:44,290 --> 00:59:42,350 that that is a phenomena not from me 1444 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:44,300 validated that wasn't a bug it wasn't a 1445 00:59:49,270 --> 00:59:46,730 bird wasn't a seagull was in the bat it 1446 00:59:52,420 --> 00:59:49,280 was at an almond anomaly you want to 1447 00:59:55,210 --> 00:59:52,430 call it an orb or sphere so many people 1448 00:59:57,430 --> 00:59:55,220 have reported seeing things that you 1449 00:59:59,470 --> 00:59:57,440 know are ejecting something you know 1450 01:00:01,060 --> 00:59:59,480 shooting straight down people have seen 1451 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:01,070 them going to water there was someone 1452 01:00:05,380 --> 01:00:03,050 talking about that recently on one of my 1453 01:00:08,050 --> 01:00:05,390 shows I'm seeing these orbs go into the 1454 01:00:11,109 --> 01:00:08,060 water themselves from from some type of 1455 01:00:13,060 --> 01:00:11,119 craft which is bizarre we're right at 1456 01:00:17,170 --> 01:00:13,070 the top of the hour so if anyone wants 1457 01:00:20,980 --> 01:00:17,180 to call in that number is six oh three 1458 01:00:22,780 --> 01:00:20,990 nine six seven four oh three oh you can 1459 01:00:25,090 --> 01:00:22,790 call in and ask our guest a question 1460 01:00:26,740 --> 01:00:25,100 I'll also post that in the chat room or 1461 01:00:29,950 --> 01:00:26,750 if you have any questions in chat you're 1462 01:00:32,650 --> 01:00:29,960 welcome to post your questions there so 1463 01:00:35,830 --> 01:00:32,660 what are some other interesting people 1464 01:00:38,859 --> 01:00:35,840 you've talked to not necessarily in your 1465 01:00:42,540 --> 01:00:38,869 documentary but I saw that you went to 1466 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:42,550 the symposium and the MUFON symposium 1467 01:00:48,940 --> 01:00:46,090 and it's all about making connections 1468 01:00:50,470 --> 01:00:48,950 absolutely what I'm getting at is with 1469 01:00:52,060 --> 01:00:50,480 the type of equipment you have have you 1470 01:00:57,340 --> 01:00:52,070 spoken to other people that are 1471 01:00:58,660 --> 01:00:57,350 interested in and actually coming to you 1472 01:01:00,010 --> 01:00:58,670 coming to their place where there's a 1473 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:00,020 hotspot or something like that anything 1474 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:01,490 that come up like that 1475 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:03,890 meant a lot of people and again I've 1476 01:01:09,609 --> 01:01:07,010 only been to one conference so far but I 1477 01:01:10,900 --> 01:01:09,619 do a lot of Facebook discussions with 1478 01:01:12,790 --> 01:01:10,910 people from around the world but I've 1479 01:01:14,980 --> 01:01:12,800 met a lot of people are doing what I'm 1480 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:14,990 doing the investing a lot of money into 1481 01:01:18,790 --> 01:01:16,730 night-vision devices they're doing 1482 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:18,800 nighttime beginning a tripod they're 1483 01:01:23,140 --> 01:01:20,570 doing their own sky watches mobile unit 1484 01:01:25,060 --> 01:01:23,150 for what they can afford and they're 1485 01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:25,070 capturing similar things than what I'm 1486 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:27,110 capturing and this is this not just a 1487 01:01:32,380 --> 01:01:28,850 unique phenomena in one area of the sky 1488 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:32,390 in part of the world its global and and 1489 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:34,010 they're similar you know it's just 1490 01:01:38,740 --> 01:01:36,290 they're very difficult to find a 1491 01:01:40,660 --> 01:01:38,750 different difficult to film and you have 1492 01:01:43,540 --> 01:01:40,670 to have patience it's all to do with 1493 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:43,550 timing do you have a call coming in are 1494 01:01:48,550 --> 01:01:44,450 you ready to take a call 1495 01:01:51,820 --> 01:01:48,560 yeah absolutely okay all right caller 1496 01:01:54,609 --> 01:01:51,830 welcome to the show and your first name 1497 01:01:57,820 --> 01:01:54,619 and where are you calling from yeah hi 1498 01:02:00,700 --> 01:01:57,830 my name is Doug in Hoboken New Jersey 1499 01:02:03,609 --> 01:02:00,710 hi doc how are you and well I know 1500 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:03,619 Charles from Eddie pogos site and we're 1501 01:02:12,609 --> 01:02:06,890 mutual sky watchers Oh hear that you're 1502 01:02:14,290 --> 01:02:12,619 the Doug in my chat room yeah yeah yeah 1503 01:02:17,260 --> 01:02:14,300 I've offered there Charles to go to my 1504 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:17,270 place in Mexico every now and then to do 1505 01:02:21,220 --> 01:02:18,890 a little sky watching from my roof there 1506 01:02:32,010 --> 01:02:21,230 well you know what I might take you on 1507 01:02:39,340 --> 01:02:36,820 we're not that sophisticated what do you 1508 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:39,350 want break right now no no we you are 1509 01:02:45,330 --> 01:02:41,210 alive call anyone that calls into the 1510 01:02:48,070 --> 01:02:45,340 show is calling in live so you are live 1511 01:02:51,250 --> 01:02:48,080 watch my P's and Q's that's right here 1512 01:02:52,810 --> 01:02:51,260 yes all right yeah no because I know I 1513 01:02:55,210 --> 01:02:52,820 haven't spoken to you a while I kind of 1514 01:02:58,750 --> 01:02:55,220 got off of at each site and wasn't very 1515 01:03:01,720 --> 01:02:58,760 involved but I got a new runa optics set 1516 01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:01,730 up and which is great because it does 1517 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:03,920 its own recording you know you don't 1518 01:03:09,250 --> 01:03:05,210 have to have the little angel eye or the 1519 01:03:11,530 --> 01:03:09,260 little tiny recorder here and yeah I've 1520 01:03:13,810 --> 01:03:11,540 been no filming along and capturing some 1521 01:03:15,250 --> 01:03:13,820 weird stuff but I mostly like my daytime 1522 01:03:19,230 --> 01:03:15,260 shot some of them you've seen 1523 01:03:22,030 --> 01:03:19,240 and also that one large part bright 1524 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:22,040 seeing moving through the Mexico sky 1525 01:03:25,900 --> 01:03:24,290 implied the Carmen that when I sent it 1526 01:03:27,670 --> 01:03:25,910 in you said Doug I think you got a real 1527 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:27,680 thing yeah oh yeah absolutely that 1528 01:03:32,950 --> 01:03:30,650 that's a that's a freak I don't know 1529 01:03:34,780 --> 01:03:32,960 what that is that's the only reason why 1530 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:34,790 I want to come back to I look like no 1531 01:03:37,540 --> 01:03:35,930 camera first of all I used to go there 1532 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:37,550 quite often I haven't been there for 1533 01:03:42,490 --> 01:03:40,850 many years so and fact that you're 1534 01:03:45,970 --> 01:03:42,500 capturing things out there I want to 1535 01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:45,980 bring my SMU and do so sky watching yeah 1536 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:48,110 it's a great spot and I'll tell you this 1537 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:51,530 the stars are so bright and alive 1538 01:03:55,450 --> 01:03:53,450 they're from my rooftop and it's just 1539 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:55,460 it's great to get away from a little bit 1540 01:04:00,040 --> 01:03:57,170 of the New York haze which is what I'm 1541 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:00,050 always looking through but yeah it's an 1542 01:04:04,390 --> 01:04:02,090 exciting thing to do and like I said you 1543 01:04:06,910 --> 01:04:04,400 know people think I said it in one of my 1544 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:06,920 comments on the chat there people want 1545 01:04:10,030 --> 01:04:08,090 to know if you're making money not only 1546 01:04:12,490 --> 01:04:10,040 of you awesome muttons money you put so 1547 01:04:15,010 --> 01:04:12,500 many man-hours into it how do you even 1548 01:04:17,530 --> 01:04:15,020 evaluate your time and the value of it 1549 01:04:19,870 --> 01:04:17,540 you know yeah I appreciate you telling 1550 01:04:21,970 --> 01:04:19,880 people that because people think you 1551 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:21,980 know because I have a documentary out 1552 01:04:26,290 --> 01:04:24,530 there or I have a YouTube channel 1553 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:26,300 I don't monetize anything I don't make 1554 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:28,730 any money this is all passion because 1555 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:31,370 I've seen the real thing it's it's it's 1556 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:33,410 a drug to me right now and I want to 1557 01:04:36,250 --> 01:04:34,730 learn more and I want to know what these 1558 01:04:38,260 --> 01:04:36,260 things are and I think we're getting 1559 01:04:39,370 --> 01:04:38,270 really close to the truth and more 1560 01:04:40,690 --> 01:04:39,380 people are doing this the more 1561 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:40,700 information and data that we can put 1562 01:04:47,020 --> 01:04:43,370 together I think I think we're gonna get 1563 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:47,030 answers yeah no I think so too I think 1564 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:49,610 this video release regardless of all the 1565 01:04:54,310 --> 01:04:51,170 controversy around that whether the 1566 01:04:56,590 --> 01:04:54,320 audio is fabricated or added on later or 1567 01:04:58,660 --> 01:04:56,600 this of that regardless the general 1568 01:05:00,180 --> 01:04:58,670 public the everyday person that doesn't 1569 01:05:02,950 --> 01:05:00,190 really spend the time that you and I 1570 01:05:04,900 --> 01:05:02,960 spend on this thing are now pretty much 1571 01:05:06,460 --> 01:05:04,910 being inoculated to the idea you know 1572 01:05:08,110 --> 01:05:06,470 they're like oh yeah I guess they exist 1573 01:05:10,030 --> 01:05:08,120 they're you know no one's jumping out of 1574 01:05:13,090 --> 01:05:10,040 windows like in the days of the War of 1575 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:13,100 the Worlds that's right exactly and I 1576 01:05:17,470 --> 01:05:14,930 think I think we're a lot more people do 1577 01:05:19,690 --> 01:05:17,480 this and want to get involved and that's 1578 01:05:23,380 --> 01:05:19,700 why I want to continue doing you know my 1579 01:05:25,060 --> 01:05:23,390 website and start this spring filming 1580 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:25,070 you know doing a videos on my balcony 1581 01:05:29,140 --> 01:05:27,770 and just taking through my sky watchers 1582 01:05:31,780 --> 01:05:29,150 mobile unit and 1583 01:05:33,730 --> 01:05:31,790 and I'm doing a night show and showing 1584 01:05:35,530 --> 01:05:33,740 you know this is how you track or look 1585 01:05:37,030 --> 01:05:35,540 for UFOs it's very straightforward this 1586 01:05:39,940 --> 01:05:37,040 is the kind of equipment digit that you 1587 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:39,950 need the basic stuff whatever money that 1588 01:05:43,930 --> 01:05:41,690 you have or you can go all the way what 1589 01:05:46,390 --> 01:05:43,940 I've done you know and I think that's 1590 01:05:48,910 --> 01:05:46,400 important because people don't know 1591 01:05:50,530 --> 01:05:48,920 where to start the the thing you'll get 1592 01:05:52,810 --> 01:05:50,540 you can get your binoculars that's fine 1593 01:05:54,490 --> 01:05:52,820 but you know that's daytime nighttime I 1594 01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:54,500 think you gotta have a better chance of 1595 01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:55,970 capturing something at night than you 1596 01:06:02,210 --> 01:05:57,410 will in the daytime and if you do in the 1597 01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:02,220 daytime it's going to be half genuine 1598 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:05,110 as you go for it's gonna be one 1599 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:07,690 yeah yeah yeah that's what I think 1600 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:10,330 personally you know you know I'm friends 1601 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:12,370 with Ericka Luke's also she's just great 1602 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:14,650 and a great person and Eric and I spoke 1603 01:06:18,210 --> 01:06:16,450 about this a year ago I think your name 1604 01:06:21,090 --> 01:06:18,220 came up and you and and it's very 1605 01:06:23,250 --> 01:06:21,100 fascinating that you know about somebody 1606 01:06:25,740 --> 01:06:23,260 who knows how to analyze and take apart 1607 01:06:29,010 --> 01:06:25,750 CGI because if we could ever get to the 1608 01:06:30,540 --> 01:06:29,020 point where we have a detective in the 1609 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:30,550 business so to speak that can really 1610 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:33,130 confirm whether something is authentic 1611 01:06:38,070 --> 01:06:35,410 or or created through CGI and we could 1612 01:06:40,020 --> 01:06:38,080 get there that could straighten a lot of 1613 01:06:42,660 --> 01:06:40,030 this out and if we could have a site 1614 01:06:45,380 --> 01:06:42,670 that is really committed to only the 1615 01:06:47,490 --> 01:06:45,390 authentic stuff and not only is that CGI 1616 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:47,500 not-for-profit nothing like that 1617 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:50,290 that would be an amazing site to build 1618 01:06:54,780 --> 01:06:52,090 around and Eric and I have spoken about 1619 01:06:58,380 --> 01:06:54,790 that in cash Jack I want to say 1620 01:07:01,620 --> 01:06:58,390 something as well on this I have had 1621 01:07:03,090 --> 01:07:01,630 these conversations also with two 1622 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:03,100 different people one of them being 1623 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:06,370 marked D Antonio who does the move 1624 01:07:11,220 --> 01:07:09,250 founds you know video analysis video and 1625 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:11,230 photo analysis I've talked to him about 1626 01:07:14,340 --> 01:07:11,770 that 1627 01:07:16,770 --> 01:07:14,350 I believe Chris Lambright and I have 1628 01:07:20,010 --> 01:07:16,780 spoken about this he's a researcher in 1629 01:07:21,090 --> 01:07:20,020 Texas so I think a lot of people are 1630 01:07:23,670 --> 01:07:21,100 feeling the same way 1631 01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:23,680 and I think that that will someday when 1632 01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:25,510 someone takes the step again it's 1633 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:28,510 another thing that it's a time you know 1634 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:30,610 it sucks up a lot of time and people 1635 01:07:34,620 --> 01:07:31,930 aren't going to get any money out of it 1636 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:34,630 so these things are all born out of 1637 01:07:38,790 --> 01:07:37,210 passion you know and hopefully that will 1638 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:38,800 happen that's a good idea 1639 01:07:44,790 --> 01:07:40,330 Doug thanks for calling it you have 1640 01:07:47,430 --> 01:07:44,800 anything else you'd like to ask for 1641 01:07:50,330 --> 01:07:47,440 another 45 minutes - no I want to do 1642 01:07:55,020 --> 01:07:52,800 in touch a little bit more often I just 1643 01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:55,030 you know sometimes the whole thing gets 1644 01:07:58,590 --> 01:07:56,530 a little overwhelming for you you know 1645 01:08:00,060 --> 01:07:58,600 and you got to back away yeah absolutely 1646 01:08:03,210 --> 01:08:00,070 I totally get it 1647 01:08:05,790 --> 01:08:03,220 yeah just message me anytime man all 1648 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:05,800 right Doug hey friend thank you have a 1649 01:08:11,730 --> 01:08:09,370 call dog yes Martin light show - thank 1650 01:08:14,340 --> 01:08:11,740 you thank you I think I just cut him off 1651 01:08:17,010 --> 01:08:14,350 just a little bit there but all right so 1652 01:08:18,510 --> 01:08:17,020 yeah that was good if anyone else wants 1653 01:08:23,610 --> 01:08:18,520 to call in 1654 01:08:27,540 --> 01:08:23,620 the number is again 603 967 403 Oh 1655 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:27,550 anyone wants to call in so one of the 1656 01:08:31,950 --> 01:08:28,930 things I was thinking about asking you 1657 01:08:33,540 --> 01:08:31,960 do you have any military base that we 1658 01:08:35,580 --> 01:08:33,550 have another call coming in already so I 1659 01:08:36,990 --> 01:08:35,590 Mazal grab that we'll talk about that 1660 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:37,000 later I'll try to remember what I was 1661 01:08:43,170 --> 01:08:39,930 going to say and we'll take the call now 1662 01:08:45,330 --> 01:08:43,180 caller you are live on the air now 1663 01:08:48,450 --> 01:08:45,340 please say your first name and where 1664 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:48,460 you're calling from around the woods 1665 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:50,410 I'm calling from Charlestown West 1666 01:08:55,890 --> 01:08:53,050 Virginia I'm sorry your first name again 1667 01:08:57,950 --> 01:08:55,900 please Randall Randall 1668 01:09:05,580 --> 01:08:57,960 welcome to show window can you mute your 1669 01:09:07,470 --> 01:09:05,590 computer there we go all right Randall 1670 01:09:10,590 --> 01:09:07,480 so what what's your question for our 1671 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:10,600 guest yeah I'm just wondering if anybody 1672 01:09:16,710 --> 01:09:14,650 has seen what I saw on 2012 I was out 1673 01:09:19,740 --> 01:09:16,720 painting a fence in the field outside 1674 01:09:22,730 --> 01:09:19,750 Charlestown and I stood up forced to 1675 01:09:27,060 --> 01:09:22,740 take a break after a while it was about 1676 01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:27,070 1120 1130 m and a very sunny day I 1677 01:09:35,490 --> 01:09:31,110 stopped looked up the sun shining and 1678 01:09:38,130 --> 01:09:35,500 maybe a 30 degree arc off the Sun there 1679 01:09:41,670 --> 01:09:38,140 was a star-shaped object that had star 1680 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:41,680 like to start like points on the end of 1681 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:44,530 it it claps down very quickly the star 1682 01:09:51,620 --> 01:09:46,810 light things came together and then it 1683 01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:51,630 started star like things moved apart and 1684 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:53,920 for a moment I thought like a brief 1685 01:09:59,010 --> 01:09:57,010 second I know it's a couple of dandelion 1686 01:10:01,500 --> 01:09:59,020 seeds you know floating in the sky but 1687 01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:01,510 right away I realized it about maybe a 1688 01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:04,960 thousand 2,000 feet up they were moving 1689 01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:06,880 very very steady so they were not 1690 01:10:14,490 --> 01:10:09,760 affected by winds and when they got 1691 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:14,500 completely apart maybe a 5 degree arc 1692 01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:16,690 they started to come back together very 1693 01:10:21,330 --> 01:10:20,110 slowly and then they were like over top 1694 01:10:22,710 --> 01:10:21,340 of each other and I thought oh great 1695 01:10:26,910 --> 01:10:22,720 they're going to really do something 1696 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:26,920 fantastic now and what happened was was 1697 01:10:32,100 --> 01:10:30,130 that they star like the spindle type 1698 01:10:34,830 --> 01:10:32,110 raised very sharp to a point 1699 01:10:38,580 --> 01:10:34,840 light those rays started to come in very 1700 01:10:40,890 --> 01:10:38,590 slowly and then it just receded and then 1701 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:40,900 appeared like the star in the sky again 1702 01:10:47,129 --> 01:10:43,090 this is in the sunshine you know it's so 1703 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:47,139 very unusual that it was this bright and 1704 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:51,330 very slowly just receded and disappeared 1705 01:10:55,340 --> 01:10:53,530 wondering if anybody's wondering if 1706 01:10:58,050 --> 01:10:55,350 anybody's seen anything like that 1707 01:10:59,700 --> 01:10:58,060 someone was asking in the in the chat 1708 01:11:06,020 --> 01:10:59,710 room randall how big do you think this 1709 01:11:11,129 --> 01:11:06,030 thing was well okay if you held a dime 1710 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:11,139 maybe a nickel out at arm's length that 1711 01:11:21,410 --> 01:11:16,570 was the that was the radius of the ends 1712 01:11:25,020 --> 01:11:21,420 of the spindle like star shape raise the 1713 01:11:28,590 --> 01:11:25,030 light rays it was a very fine point 1714 01:11:31,020 --> 01:11:28,600 light and they were very very straight 1715 01:11:32,220 --> 01:11:31,030 raised and appeared to come to a very 1716 01:11:35,129 --> 01:11:32,230 fine point 1717 01:11:38,780 --> 01:11:35,139 so I'd say about Nichols eyes and arms 1718 01:11:44,580 --> 01:11:38,790 like you held that up that's what the 1719 01:11:48,229 --> 01:11:44,590 diameter of that's pretty big yeah thank 1720 01:11:51,379 --> 01:11:48,239 you thank you for that Charles and so 1721 01:11:54,030 --> 01:11:51,389 I'm sorry Randall Charles you have seen 1722 01:11:55,620 --> 01:11:54,040 you have something on video that has 1723 01:12:01,200 --> 01:11:55,630 like a plasma thing around it with like 1724 01:12:03,510 --> 01:12:01,210 points yeah his experiences during the 1725 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:03,520 daytime his sounds like it's a lot 1726 01:12:11,220 --> 01:12:08,170 larger than what I saw but the fact that 1727 01:12:13,379 --> 01:12:11,230 his disappeared after what it did it's 1728 01:12:15,149 --> 01:12:13,389 kind of funky man that's definitely an 1729 01:12:17,010 --> 01:12:15,159 anomaly that's a UFO I would I can't 1730 01:12:19,109 --> 01:12:17,020 think of that being anything mundane if 1731 01:12:21,540 --> 01:12:19,119 it was something mundane you would still 1732 01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:21,550 have you folks still see in the sky some 1733 01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:23,770 one way or another but just the fact 1734 01:12:33,870 --> 01:12:26,880 that just disappearing like that that's 1735 01:12:37,020 --> 01:12:33,880 for sure yeah and you know immediately 1736 01:12:41,910 --> 01:12:37,030 when I saw this my head goes okay 1737 01:12:45,180 --> 01:12:41,920 airplane helicopter balloon and in 2012 1738 01:12:46,049 --> 01:12:45,190 in this area we didn't have to my 1739 01:12:48,990 --> 01:12:46,059 knowledge 1740 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:49,000 that's going around sometime afterwards 1741 01:12:55,049 --> 01:12:53,170 I saw drones flying of course maybe a 1742 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:55,059 month afterwards they went online I was 1743 01:13:00,209 --> 01:12:57,010 checking out drones it might be a drone 1744 01:13:03,419 --> 01:13:00,219 you know I kind of thought that probably 1745 01:13:04,859 --> 01:13:03,429 not because this thing didn't you know I 1746 01:13:08,339 --> 01:13:04,869 usually think of drones 1747 01:13:11,729 --> 01:13:08,349 maybe hovering but moving along in a 1748 01:13:16,350 --> 01:13:11,739 steady straight line or maybe curving or 1749 01:13:19,319 --> 01:13:16,360 whatever so anyway it it's uh I think 1750 01:13:25,459 --> 01:13:19,329 about it everyday actually and it was as 1751 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:25,469 I have gone through the time since then 1752 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:27,730 you know I kind of got the feeling that 1753 01:13:35,450 --> 01:13:31,690 it was being a bit playful almost and 1754 01:13:40,500 --> 01:13:35,460 the cognac color color of the light was 1755 01:13:42,569 --> 01:13:40,510 maybe a purplish blue yeah I didn't I 1756 01:13:45,149 --> 01:13:42,579 didn't have a sense of fear from and I 1757 01:13:48,930 --> 01:13:45,159 just had this like okay what what is 1758 01:13:53,100 --> 01:13:48,940 that and so it's just an interesting 1759 01:13:55,410 --> 01:13:53,110 experience my interest actually I now I 1760 01:13:58,140 --> 01:13:55,420 have to just say a little bit about my 1761 01:14:00,830 --> 01:13:58,150 background I am a next FDA investigators 1762 01:14:03,930 --> 01:14:00,840 I've got a bit of a science background 1763 01:14:06,950 --> 01:14:03,940 yes and biology actually learned some 1764 01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:06,960 chemistry and stuff and in the FDA but 1765 01:14:12,229 --> 01:14:10,000 one of my childhood friends was about 1766 01:14:16,500 --> 01:14:12,239 delivering a paper in the morning in 1767 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:16,510 1967 or 68 up in Northwest PA and saw 1768 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:19,130 this thing that really scared him and he 1769 01:14:23,010 --> 01:14:20,489 [Music] 1770 01:14:25,649 --> 01:14:23,020 wrote immediately Ullman as black got 1771 01:14:28,770 --> 01:14:25,659 his mother up and she went and saw it 1772 01:14:30,779 --> 01:14:28,780 and that's and described the to me they 1773 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:30,789 didn't you know they were very religious 1774 01:14:36,629 --> 01:14:34,449 family had no idea what it was to this 1775 01:14:38,549 --> 01:14:36,639 day actually I talked about I talked 1776 01:14:42,149 --> 01:14:38,559 with him after this happened to me and 1777 01:14:44,029 --> 01:14:42,159 so it's uh you know of course now I went 1778 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:44,039 online and found all this stuff that's 1779 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:46,570 you know the Rendlesham forest and the 1780 01:14:51,270 --> 01:14:48,730 Phoenix lights and all that it's an 1781 01:14:53,490 --> 01:14:51,280 amazing bunch of stuff that's happening 1782 01:14:55,950 --> 01:14:53,500 so I really appreciate the detail that 1783 01:14:59,489 --> 01:14:55,960 you're bringing to this whole area 1784 01:15:03,209 --> 01:14:59,499 that's quite unsolved 1785 01:15:05,969 --> 01:15:03,219 that's your house thank you 1786 01:15:06,589 --> 01:15:05,979 hey Randall thanks for the call yeah 1787 01:15:09,899 --> 01:15:06,599 sure 1788 01:15:13,799 --> 01:15:09,909 alright so what I was getting at just 1789 01:15:17,879 --> 01:15:13,809 before the call came in was is there any 1790 01:15:21,330 --> 01:15:17,889 military bases anywhere near where you 1791 01:15:23,660 --> 01:15:21,340 live or any other air airports yeah 1792 01:15:28,469 --> 01:15:23,670 yeah there is but they're across the 1793 01:15:30,899 --> 01:15:28,479 across the channel English be going 1794 01:15:33,569 --> 01:15:30,909 towards Nanaimo there's a there's an Air 1795 01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:33,579 Force Base there that's still about you 1796 01:15:38,819 --> 01:15:36,130 know get 1015 miles away but again 1797 01:15:43,069 --> 01:15:38,829 that's over you know it's on the island 1798 01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:43,079 of Vancouver Island case yeah so 1799 01:15:48,540 --> 01:15:46,449 interestingly enough a lot of the ORS a 1800 01:15:50,009 --> 01:15:48,550 lot of the thought of the UFOs I see are 1801 01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:50,019 going towards in that general direction 1802 01:15:55,799 --> 01:15:53,610 you know they all go towards the north 1803 01:15:57,989 --> 01:15:55,809 most of them go over Cypress Mountain 1804 01:16:01,200 --> 01:15:57,999 and if you do the if you look at on a 1805 01:16:06,270 --> 01:16:01,210 map Cypress Mountain you could count the 1806 01:16:08,939 --> 01:16:06,280 line up to the base so I don't know one 1807 01:16:10,890 --> 01:16:08,949 one person one of my videos I shot I 1808 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:10,900 thought for sure was a UFO and I still 1809 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:13,210 do today and I hit it with an infrared 1810 01:16:18,180 --> 01:16:15,130 laser I had a really strong and for a 1811 01:16:20,939 --> 01:16:18,190 laser which had a good tattoo mile range 1812 01:16:23,009 --> 01:16:20,949 on it it flared up and a lot of people 1813 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:23,019 think it might be an ingredient flare 1814 01:16:27,959 --> 01:16:25,570 you know satellite and everything I go 1815 01:16:30,930 --> 01:16:27,969 I've seen so many Iridium flares Mike in 1816 01:16:32,969 --> 01:16:30,940 my lifetime as a restaurant owner this 1817 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:32,979 did not flare up like a typical radiant 1818 01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:36,010 radiant flare satellite I was following 1819 01:16:39,839 --> 01:16:37,449 it with my night vision it was tumbling 1820 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:39,849 coming down slowly didn't really change 1821 01:16:44,129 --> 01:16:42,010 direction but you know when I hit the 1822 01:16:47,250 --> 01:16:44,139 leis on it twice within three seconds 1823 01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:47,260 four seconds it flared like a slight 1824 01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:50,320 switch and it went out really where is 1825 01:16:54,959 --> 01:16:53,050 the flare like this or they flash really 1826 01:16:57,870 --> 01:16:54,969 bright really fast this thing went on 1827 01:17:00,270 --> 01:16:57,880 like a light switch and shut off after 1828 01:17:03,689 --> 01:17:00,280 hitting with the laser so one guy that 1829 01:17:06,029 --> 01:17:03,699 works for the the military somewhere in 1830 01:17:09,870 --> 01:17:06,039 the US if it's true or not you left a 1831 01:17:11,850 --> 01:17:09,880 comment saying that Predator drones 1832 01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:11,860 if you hit with a laser it'll respond 1833 01:17:14,490 --> 01:17:12,850 knowing your 1834 01:17:17,010 --> 01:17:14,500 location and it will hell are up with 1835 01:17:18,540 --> 01:17:17,020 their infrared sight lasers that right 1836 01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:18,550 you don't want to get one of their 1837 01:17:25,020 --> 01:17:21,850 attentions yeah but predators drones in 1838 01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:25,030 Canada but back in that year the 1839 01:17:30,300 --> 01:17:27,010 Canadians were looking at purchasing 1840 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:30,310 some from the US so I haven't followed 1841 01:17:34,710 --> 01:17:33,250 suit if they have it maybe some of our 1842 01:17:36,420 --> 01:17:34,720 skies with you know with all the drug 1843 01:17:38,370 --> 01:17:36,430 trafficking we're only an hour away from 1844 01:17:40,980 --> 01:17:38,380 the border of the US just gonna going to 1845 01:17:42,420 --> 01:17:40,990 ask you how far you were and and how so 1846 01:17:44,490 --> 01:17:42,430 you're you're only 50 miles from 1847 01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:44,500 Vancouver so you're pretty far over to 1848 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:46,960 the your the Pacific Northwest basically 1849 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:50,890 yeah I'm right at the edge um I can see 1850 01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:52,570 the ocean right where I'm looking right 1851 01:17:55,860 --> 01:17:54,490 now from my apartment so I'm right at 1852 01:17:58,140 --> 01:17:55,870 the edge here so that's probably why I 1853 01:17:59,790 --> 01:17:58,150 get a lot of orange and UFOs like I'm 1854 01:18:01,740 --> 01:17:59,800 about into the city they all come in 1855 01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:01,750 from the ocean they come either from 1856 01:18:05,220 --> 01:18:03,490 straight up or they come in a little bit 1857 01:18:07,620 --> 01:18:05,230 you know wasn't 60 40 degrees above the 1858 01:18:10,410 --> 01:18:07,630 horizon coming in from the from the bay 1859 01:18:14,940 --> 01:18:10,420 and they go into the city and then they 1860 01:18:18,690 --> 01:18:14,950 take coffee to go north say Washington 1861 01:18:20,250 --> 01:18:18,700 State was I think was the third had the 1862 01:18:22,590 --> 01:18:20,260 third most sightings last year 1863 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:22,600 California always has the most you know 1864 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:24,130 because there's so many people and so 1865 01:18:30,900 --> 01:18:26,770 big and the weather's great so 1866 01:18:33,030 --> 01:18:30,910 Washington had 192 reported sightings 1867 01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:33,040 this is up only for new Fork I'm just 1868 01:18:37,290 --> 01:18:35,290 talking about new Fork only where the 1869 01:18:40,290 --> 01:18:37,300 Reporting Center is out there anyway in 1870 01:18:44,100 --> 01:18:40,300 Washington have you ever worked with 1871 01:18:46,410 --> 01:18:44,110 Peter Davenport at all no but I've heard 1872 01:18:48,690 --> 01:18:46,420 of him yeah yeah definitely 1873 01:18:51,030 --> 01:18:48,700 not too far away from you actually yeah 1874 01:18:52,530 --> 01:18:51,040 I should go see him actually I go talk 1875 01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:52,540 with him I've always wanted to go to 1876 01:18:57,060 --> 01:18:54,130 Washington do some skywatching because 1877 01:19:00,750 --> 01:18:57,070 there was a study done that I'm sure you 1878 01:19:02,810 --> 01:19:00,760 might familiar with it it was a doctor 1879 01:19:04,110 --> 01:19:02,820 or no doctor yeah dr. Hynek actually 1880 01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:04,120 started it 1881 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:08,050 it was the Yakama UFO yeah you project 1882 01:19:15,450 --> 01:19:11,530 it was back in 1972 and they actually 1883 01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:15,460 coined these orange amber spheres as 1884 01:19:22,230 --> 01:19:19,360 nocturnal lights oh we got the name of 1885 01:19:24,990 --> 01:19:22,240 the film mm-hmm so and if you ever look 1886 01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:25,000 at that studies yeah yeah Yakima UFO 1887 01:19:28,740 --> 01:19:26,320 field project 1888 01:19:31,290 --> 01:19:28,750 and taupe what's the name of the city 1889 01:19:34,850 --> 01:19:31,300 here I got it here taupe in it Toppenish 1890 01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:34,860 Washington in the First Nations reserve 1891 01:19:41,370 --> 01:19:38,110 they excited some very similar similar 1892 01:19:42,780 --> 01:19:41,380 objects that I've seen and I mean 1893 01:19:44,100 --> 01:19:42,790 Optimus if you read it it's almost 1894 01:19:47,610 --> 01:19:44,110 identical to some of the stuff I'm 1895 01:19:50,010 --> 01:19:47,620 filming you're seen with the naked eye 1896 01:19:51,270 --> 01:19:50,020 some are seen with night vision and they 1897 01:19:52,950 --> 01:19:51,280 have a bunch of scientists there they 1898 01:19:54,930 --> 01:19:52,960 have a lot of people but it just died 1899 01:19:57,420 --> 01:19:54,940 off they didn't do anything with it it's 1900 01:19:59,730 --> 01:19:57,430 not even really mentioned very often so 1901 01:20:02,430 --> 01:19:59,740 I found it very interesting I thought 1902 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:02,440 I've talked to people and wondered why 1903 01:20:07,140 --> 01:20:04,570 some of these great you know research 1904 01:20:10,110 --> 01:20:07,150 sites have you know faded away and died 1905 01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:10,120 you know and basically a lot of it has 1906 01:20:14,940 --> 01:20:12,250 to do with the people involved in an age 1907 01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:14,950 get older and then there's just no one 1908 01:20:19,470 --> 01:20:17,440 up and coming in it or there's some you 1909 01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:19,480 know there's some inter fighting or 1910 01:20:26,910 --> 01:20:22,930 something I didn't say information that 1911 01:20:28,620 --> 01:20:26,920 they're getting from the objects a lot 1912 01:20:32,850 --> 01:20:28,630 of times they fade away like I was 1913 01:20:36,750 --> 01:20:32,860 seeing an orb probably once every two 1914 01:20:38,910 --> 01:20:36,760 nights guaranteed back in 2012 before 1915 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:38,920 that in 2011 with the naked eye didn't 1916 01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:40,810 have any cameras yet I was seeing large 1917 01:20:44,730 --> 01:20:42,730 orange amber objects going above the 1918 01:20:47,100 --> 01:20:44,740 condo buildings maybe another thousand 1919 01:20:49,710 --> 01:20:47,110 feet up between the clouds and going by 1920 01:20:52,170 --> 01:20:49,720 and I go what the heck is that you know 1921 01:20:54,480 --> 01:20:52,180 so there's a lot of action back in and 1922 01:20:57,630 --> 01:20:54,490 it suddenly is started going down after 1923 01:20:59,520 --> 01:20:57,640 2013 2014 and so now I'm seeing 1924 01:21:02,430 --> 01:20:59,530 something and I'm going out there's the 1925 01:21:04,650 --> 01:21:02,440 starry night once a year I'm capturing 1926 01:21:07,650 --> 01:21:04,660 something so it's come down quite a bit 1927 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:07,660 but it's also timing I don't spend eight 1928 01:21:13,890 --> 01:21:09,970 hours a night anymore I go with a couple 1929 01:21:16,110 --> 01:21:13,900 hours maybe in an hour so if I did eight 1930 01:21:16,770 --> 01:21:16,120 hours a night you know from sunset to 1931 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:16,780 sunrise 1932 01:21:21,930 --> 01:21:19,570 I could probably see probably one every 1933 01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:21,940 two nights as well probably I don't know 1934 01:21:27,450 --> 01:21:23,710 but it's time you got to be there at the 1935 01:21:30,300 --> 01:21:27,460 right time and I don't think that rating 1936 01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:30,310 works I tried that I've never done it 1937 01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:33,280 I've never meditated so do I believe 1938 01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:35,050 that there's a possibility something 1939 01:21:40,940 --> 01:21:39,210 with the conscious mind yes I think so 1940 01:21:42,290 --> 01:21:40,950 because I have one experience that I 1941 01:21:44,150 --> 01:21:42,300 don't think you know about that I had 1942 01:21:46,580 --> 01:21:44,160 and I think this is what validated all 1943 01:21:50,450 --> 01:21:46,590 my eight years and this happened back in 1944 01:21:53,780 --> 01:21:50,460 2015 I was watching TV it was December 1945 01:21:54,890 --> 01:21:53,790 it was raining was cold looking at the 1946 01:21:56,450 --> 01:21:54,900 TV and I'm side of my eye 1947 01:21:58,310 --> 01:21:56,460 cuz I got huge windows right in the 1948 01:22:01,010 --> 01:21:58,320 condo looking downtown Vancouver the 1949 01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:01,020 ocean the mountains and there's this 1950 01:22:05,660 --> 01:22:03,330 blue light going back and forth outside 1951 01:22:08,330 --> 01:22:05,670 my balcony window side of my eye 1952 01:22:09,980 --> 01:22:08,340 watching TV oh my god what the heck is 1953 01:22:12,440 --> 01:22:09,990 that I'm going on some guy with the 1954 01:22:15,650 --> 01:22:12,450 drone some kid with their little drones 1955 01:22:18,230 --> 01:22:15,660 right going up and down so I didn't mind 1956 01:22:19,700 --> 01:22:18,240 it right so watching TV a little two 1957 01:22:21,410 --> 01:22:19,710 minutes later it's going back and forth 1958 01:22:24,440 --> 01:22:21,420 outside I got this I got to go out there 1959 01:22:25,910 --> 01:22:24,450 and tell this kid to stop it you know so 1960 01:22:27,410 --> 01:22:25,920 I'm on my balcony and we're looking for 1961 01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:27,420 this thing and I'll sign it comes up i 1962 01:22:34,610 --> 01:22:29,850 level ten feet from my head 1963 01:22:36,740 --> 01:22:34,620 it was a blue orb size of a golf ball so 1964 01:22:39,530 --> 01:22:36,750 bright it was a friend like a LED 1965 01:22:41,270 --> 01:22:39,540 Christmas light super bright but it 1966 01:22:44,900 --> 01:22:41,280 wasn't reflected light anywhere it's 1967 01:22:47,420 --> 01:22:44,910 just beautiful and if I was Scottish 1968 01:22:49,370 --> 01:22:47,430 back in a scottish romance back in the 1969 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:49,380 15th century I'd say that was a fairy 1970 01:22:55,850 --> 01:22:54,090 right really you know I've I didn't know 1971 01:22:57,530 --> 01:22:55,860 what that was I knew it was an or I knew 1972 01:23:00,560 --> 01:22:57,540 it was this year was an orb was bright 1973 01:23:01,910 --> 01:23:00,570 blue and when it cut you I was looking 1974 01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:01,920 at it obviously because it's thought 1975 01:23:07,250 --> 01:23:04,650 that I level it took off zipped across 1976 01:23:08,750 --> 01:23:07,260 them I'm right here by the gravel Street 1977 01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:08,760 bridge of course I'm pointing you can't 1978 01:23:14,150 --> 01:23:11,760 see it fine it's about 300 meters away 1979 01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:14,160 it starts going like just like a bug 1980 01:23:19,250 --> 01:23:16,290 zigzagging going really really fast and 1981 01:23:20,810 --> 01:23:19,260 within two seconds it stopped on top of 1982 01:23:23,450 --> 01:23:20,820 the building across from me which is 200 1983 01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:23,460 meters away and it grew to the size of a 1984 01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:26,250 big huge beach ball because I could see 1985 01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:28,290 really bright and large and that's 300 1986 01:23:33,170 --> 01:23:30,480 meters away it was just as bright so I 1987 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:33,180 run aside I grab my camera I got my 1988 01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:36,090 Canon x8n I've got it in the sights I 1989 01:23:41,270 --> 01:23:38,130 could turn on the switch and I'm about 1990 01:23:44,870 --> 01:23:41,280 to hit record this is a true story this 1991 01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:44,880 is this is amazing I hit record it 1992 01:23:48,710 --> 01:23:47,010 blinked out of it that's the same time 1993 01:23:48,980 --> 01:23:48,720 as a hurry record just like a light 1994 01:23:51,440 --> 01:23:48,990 switch 1995 01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:51,450 yeah so that was my number one side 1996 01:23:55,250 --> 01:23:53,010 because I was so close to it 1997 01:23:57,830 --> 01:23:55,260 and it validated all my orbs that I've 1998 01:23:59,540 --> 01:23:57,840 ever seen because you never 100% when 1999 01:24:01,490 --> 01:23:59,550 you're using night vision there's 100 2000 01:24:03,050 --> 01:24:01,500 feet away you know it's an anomaly 2001 01:24:04,850 --> 01:24:03,060 you know you ruled out anything mundane 2002 01:24:07,670 --> 01:24:04,860 but there may be something one day that 2003 01:24:10,190 --> 01:24:07,680 I'm not familiar with yet I'm capturing 2004 01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:10,200 it on on on camera but when you have 2005 01:24:17,900 --> 01:24:11,730 this experience with this little blue 2006 01:24:19,850 --> 01:24:17,910 LED blue gull sized ball the ability 2007 01:24:22,460 --> 01:24:19,860 every orb that I've captured 2008 01:24:24,380 --> 01:24:22,470 they're real 100% real and 100% 2009 01:24:26,900 --> 01:24:24,390 confident because I've seen at ten feet 2010 01:24:29,780 --> 01:24:26,910 from me so I don't know what that was 2011 01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:29,790 and the fact that it blinked out what 2012 01:24:34,310 --> 01:24:31,530 are the coincidences hanging recorded 2013 01:24:37,130 --> 01:24:34,320 would just blink out I don't know yeah 2014 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:37,140 but that was remarkable yeah that was 2015 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:40,410 remark oh that was my best sighting yeah 2016 01:24:46,250 --> 01:24:43,410 yeah that that's kind of exciting in and 2017 01:24:48,260 --> 01:24:46,260 one of the things you know you're 2018 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:48,270 talking about you're out there without 2019 01:24:52,130 --> 01:24:49,890 your camera of course you know that's 2020 01:24:53,690 --> 01:24:52,140 when that happens but and I know you 2021 01:24:56,990 --> 01:24:53,700 mentioned this when you had your very 2022 01:24:57,950 --> 01:24:57,000 first sighting and that was you didn't 2023 01:24:59,870 --> 01:24:57,960 think to record it 2024 01:25:06,050 --> 01:24:59,880 no no when the thing went across the 2025 01:25:07,729 --> 01:25:06,060 moon I think that by by just a few 2026 01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:07,739 seconds and about but easily ahead I 2027 01:25:11,660 --> 01:25:10,170 could just hit the camera and take 2028 01:25:13,850 --> 01:25:11,670 multiple photos because I was a setup 2029 01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:13,860 for multiple exposures she said to hit 2030 01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:16,290 the button but I was just stunned I was 2031 01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:18,930 going whoa what is that and by the time 2032 01:25:23,630 --> 01:25:22,170 it went by I'm like this isn't hitting 2033 01:25:26,810 --> 01:25:23,640 buttons it was nothing they're just the 2034 01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:26,820 moon so yeah it's it happens a lot then 2035 01:25:30,020 --> 01:25:28,290 I've seen a couple like that you know 2036 01:25:31,580 --> 01:25:30,030 and I could have grabbed my camera but I 2037 01:25:32,870 --> 01:25:31,590 want to watch it because I know by the 2038 01:25:35,390 --> 01:25:32,880 time I got my camera I would have missed 2039 01:25:37,220 --> 01:25:35,400 it and then we'd go by over five second 2040 01:25:39,260 --> 01:25:37,230 period and that wasn't too long ago six 2041 01:25:40,610 --> 01:25:39,270 months ago I saw one go by it was bright 2042 01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:40,620 orange and it was just going by really 2043 01:25:45,440 --> 01:25:43,410 fast faster than the ISS was that high 2044 01:25:47,420 --> 01:25:45,450 though but bright orange and it just 2045 01:25:48,979 --> 01:25:47,430 went really fast I knew would have been 2046 01:25:50,630 --> 01:25:48,989 a great catcher if I had my cameras out 2047 01:25:51,860 --> 01:25:50,640 but I want to watch it I knew I was 2048 01:25:54,010 --> 01:25:51,870 gonna miss it I want to see what's gonna 2049 01:25:59,570 --> 01:25:54,020 do something I've never seen before but 2050 01:26:01,280 --> 01:25:59,580 just passed mountains it wasn't I when I 2051 01:26:04,130 --> 01:26:01,290 had a sighting in California you know 2052 01:26:05,959 --> 01:26:04,140 years ago so that was the last thing on 2053 01:26:06,830 --> 01:26:05,969 my mind recording it or you know I mean 2054 01:26:12,050 --> 01:26:06,840 I didn't have my 2055 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:12,060 but still it's like I never even thought 2056 01:26:18,290 --> 01:26:14,810 of it I think that that that can happen 2057 01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:18,300 but I think that's in the moment I think 2058 01:26:22,729 --> 01:26:20,610 people should carry something with them 2059 01:26:25,070 --> 01:26:22,739 I mean if you only have a phone camera 2060 01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:25,080 great at least you have something but if 2061 01:26:27,770 --> 01:26:26,400 I if people are listening right now and 2062 01:26:30,470 --> 01:26:27,780 you want to capture something and if 2063 01:26:32,169 --> 01:26:30,480 it's bright enough do video it'll take 2064 01:26:34,070 --> 01:26:32,179 pictures pictures are useless 2065 01:26:35,419 --> 01:26:34,080 unless that's all you can take is a 2066 01:26:38,030 --> 01:26:35,429 picture and it's really clear and it 2067 01:26:39,859 --> 01:26:38,040 really looks like a UFO take a picture 2068 01:26:42,109 --> 01:26:39,869 do whatever you have but if you can't 2069 01:26:44,359 --> 01:26:42,119 take video if your camera's got low 2070 01:26:47,419 --> 01:26:44,369 light if you got a good smart camera 2071 01:26:50,149 --> 01:26:47,429 that the videos got the good-good low 2072 01:26:52,850 --> 01:26:50,159 light take video because you can tell a 2073 01:26:57,169 --> 01:26:52,860 lot from an object by taking video and 2074 01:26:59,060 --> 01:26:57,179 we need that data as well yes we have a 2075 01:27:02,209 --> 01:26:59,070 regular listener to the show he's also a 2076 01:27:04,490 --> 01:27:02,219 regular guest longtime researcher race 2077 01:27:09,350 --> 01:27:04,500 stanford he did the Socorro case 2078 01:27:12,649 --> 01:27:09,360 originally oh yeah in New Mexico so ray 2079 01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:12,659 since the 1960's has always had either a 2080 01:27:17,810 --> 01:27:14,610 video or a camera on him he's never left 2081 01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:17,820 his home without it yeah yeah and but he 2082 01:27:23,899 --> 01:27:21,090 and he's caught some amazing footage I 2083 01:27:25,220 --> 01:27:23,909 went to his house he's very guarded he 2084 01:27:29,540 --> 01:27:25,230 could be listening right now actually 2085 01:27:31,100 --> 01:27:29,550 he's very guarded with his material but 2086 01:27:32,750 --> 01:27:31,110 if you actually spend the time and go to 2087 01:27:35,629 --> 01:27:32,760 his house he will show you some amazing 2088 01:27:39,169 --> 01:27:35,639 videos and my plans you know yeah an 2089 01:27:44,030 --> 01:27:39,179 amazing pictures and a lot of them one 2090 01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:44,040 of them is a plasma it's very much it's 2091 01:27:50,959 --> 01:27:46,650 very unique it's the object was moving 2092 01:27:53,689 --> 01:27:50,969 and it was it was vertical moving like a 2093 01:27:55,430 --> 01:27:53,699 disc vertical moving with a bright beam 2094 01:28:00,410 --> 01:27:55,440 of light out in front of it like a 2095 01:28:02,419 --> 01:28:00,420 plasma beam now wow yeah and I saw that 2096 01:28:03,859 --> 01:28:02,429 that picture again he won't you know he 2097 01:28:06,490 --> 01:28:03,869 won't share these on the internet or 2098 01:28:08,839 --> 01:28:06,500 anything like that he's very regarded 2099 01:28:12,290 --> 01:28:08,849 yeah some people get upset about it 2100 01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:12,300 though well hey I totally get it because 2101 01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:14,130 when I first started you know my first 2102 01:28:18,530 --> 01:28:16,560 one that I sent out on YouTube that 2103 01:28:20,250 --> 01:28:18,540 energy or I think I sent you a photo of 2104 01:28:22,290 --> 01:28:20,260 it that came 50 2105 01:28:23,970 --> 01:28:22,300 I mean it looks like a plasma filaments 2106 01:28:26,430 --> 01:28:23,980 you know and oh yeah it's just 2107 01:28:28,799 --> 01:28:26,440 completely to the naked eye now I put 2108 01:28:31,169 --> 01:28:28,809 that on YouTube and a couple other UFOs 2109 01:28:33,660 --> 01:28:31,179 I captured a couple of weeks or months 2110 01:28:36,299 --> 01:28:33,670 later one that looked like a satellite 2111 01:28:37,830 --> 01:28:36,309 and it bounced back did a 180 it went 2112 01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:37,840 the other way it's actually in my 2113 01:28:45,259 --> 01:28:40,449 documentary yes I put those on YouTube 2114 01:28:47,129 --> 01:28:45,269 well within a month I got 3 K 3 2115 01:28:50,459 --> 01:28:47,139 computers in my house 2116 01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:50,469 got 2 pcs and a Mac I got hacked 2117 01:28:54,899 --> 01:28:52,210 big-time all three of them all ones 2118 01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:54,909 through the internet and they went into 2119 01:28:59,910 --> 01:28:57,730 my company computer server took all 2120 01:29:02,609 --> 01:28:59,920 bunch of information from me 2121 01:29:04,770 --> 01:29:02,619 and they sent 198 emails to an 2122 01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:04,780 undisclosed undisclosed recipient 2123 01:29:10,649 --> 01:29:07,449 through my gmail account and it was 2124 01:29:13,470 --> 01:29:10,659 snippets above me of all of everything 2125 01:29:17,970 --> 01:29:13,480 from my l3 computers pair in a paragraph 2126 01:29:18,779 --> 01:29:17,980 and each of one of the 198 emails and I 2127 01:29:20,819 --> 01:29:18,789 couldn't believe it 2128 01:29:24,359 --> 01:29:20,829 I'm reading I'm going how did they do 2129 01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:24,369 this it was such a professional hack so 2130 01:29:27,359 --> 01:29:26,170 well I don't I've never been hacked in 2131 01:29:30,209 --> 01:29:27,369 my life before 2132 01:29:32,279 --> 01:29:30,219 you know I hear I'm posting your full 2133 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:32,289 videos and boom three of my computers 2134 01:29:36,959 --> 01:29:34,570 are down and all this information is 2135 01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:36,969 zipped all through my gmail account so I 2136 01:29:44,250 --> 01:29:40,570 take precautions now but Wow yeah design 2137 01:29:47,430 --> 01:29:44,260 coinsidence oh yeah I started 2138 01:29:50,209 --> 01:29:47,440 there's VPN or something like that my 2139 01:29:52,799 --> 01:29:50,219 son was telling me about so that's 2140 01:29:55,259 --> 01:29:52,809 that's the best protection you can get 2141 01:29:59,129 --> 01:29:55,269 like Aaron it's you guys a month yeah 2142 01:30:00,870 --> 01:29:59,139 yeah well excellent so what do you what 2143 01:30:03,419 --> 01:30:00,880 do you we got about a half hour left 2144 01:30:05,790 --> 01:30:03,429 here and again we can take calls if 2145 01:30:08,879 --> 01:30:05,800 anyone wants to call in but what do you 2146 01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:08,889 plan to do next are you planning to do 2147 01:30:14,459 --> 01:30:12,400 any more filming as far as movies go 2148 01:30:17,879 --> 01:30:14,469 even though you lost money on this one 2149 01:30:19,620 --> 01:30:17,889 yeah not losing money I spent money I 2150 01:30:21,899 --> 01:30:19,630 put myself in a hole sure a little bit 2151 01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:21,909 you know I'm doing this now I got three 2152 01:30:27,509 --> 01:30:25,690 drones here's a small one oh yes but us 2153 01:30:29,759 --> 01:30:27,519 one it's a tiny it goes 2 kilometers 2154 01:30:33,540 --> 01:30:29,769 it's called a spark it's got a great HD 2155 01:30:35,910 --> 01:30:33,550 video you can actually put 4 5 2156 01:30:37,830 --> 01:30:35,920 grand a thermal device on this little 2157 01:30:39,480 --> 01:30:37,840 thing only five grand 2158 01:30:40,350 --> 01:30:39,490 yeah only five grand I don't have that 2159 01:30:43,020 --> 01:30:40,360 money more I spent too much money 2160 01:30:44,370 --> 01:30:43,030 already this wasn't too expensive I got 2161 01:30:46,980 --> 01:30:44,380 the mafic which is a little bit bigger 2162 01:30:49,410 --> 01:30:46,990 and I got another one it's a lot larger 2163 01:30:51,150 --> 01:30:49,420 or I can put more of a payload on it so 2164 01:30:52,890 --> 01:30:51,160 that's my next venture is I want to get 2165 01:30:54,570 --> 01:30:52,900 something in the air because why I'm 2166 01:30:56,310 --> 01:30:54,580 going to follow these orbs I know if 2167 01:30:58,260 --> 01:30:56,320 they shoot any MF they're gonna drop 2168 01:31:00,720 --> 01:30:58,270 these things like a fly like they're 2169 01:31:02,250 --> 01:31:00,730 gonna jump on with the sky but if I get 2170 01:31:06,230 --> 01:31:02,260 closer and get more information more 2171 01:31:08,910 --> 01:31:06,240 data with thermal and with night vision 2172 01:31:10,230 --> 01:31:08,920 why not I mean this is what I want to 2173 01:31:13,170 --> 01:31:10,240 always want to do it against the Hobby 2174 01:31:15,870 --> 01:31:13,180 as well but I want to set these up with 2175 01:31:18,270 --> 01:31:15,880 them with thermal I just wish there were 2176 01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:18,280 some people out there with lots of money 2177 01:31:22,470 --> 01:31:20,530 that love UFOs I want to learn more 2178 01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:22,480 about UFOs there's people like myself 2179 01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:24,730 around the world that could benefit with 2180 01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:27,090 a little bit of money you know 2181 01:31:31,230 --> 01:31:28,930 millionaires that don't know what to do 2182 01:31:33,750 --> 01:31:31,240 with their money I'm here here's my 2183 01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:35,490 yeah well that you know the one thing 2184 01:31:39,630 --> 01:31:37,090 about you put that type of money in a 2185 01:31:41,700 --> 01:31:39,640 drone and you crash it it's that would 2186 01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:41,710 be a shame to have that happen well 2187 01:31:45,180 --> 01:31:43,450 that's that's why I probably would put 2188 01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:45,190 on this $500 why not put on more 2189 01:31:50,940 --> 01:31:47,770 expensive one that I know that's it's 2190 01:31:53,820 --> 01:31:50,950 gonna stay in here and uh it the fact 2191 01:31:57,510 --> 01:31:53,830 that but if I do encounter an object 2192 01:31:59,880 --> 01:31:57,520 that has a lot of radiation of RF signal 2193 01:32:01,250 --> 01:31:59,890 or EMF that might drop the drone on this 2194 01:32:04,590 --> 01:32:01,260 guy then yeah that's going to be a loss 2195 01:32:06,780 --> 01:32:04,600 but it's worth the risk you know they're 2196 01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:06,790 gonna be warp chasing now I dunno uh 2197 01:32:14,340 --> 01:32:09,970 there are some for instance Doug 2198 01:32:16,500 --> 01:32:14,350 Trumbull these deep pockets yeah he's 2199 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:16,510 doing the you photog him along with uh 2200 01:32:22,140 --> 01:32:19,570 Mark Dantonio 2201 01:32:23,340 --> 01:32:22,150 so yeah so there are some people out 2202 01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:23,350 there that are taking this seriously 2203 01:32:28,410 --> 01:32:26,050 beside yourself oh yeah and he's got 2204 01:32:29,550 --> 01:32:28,420 money he's got some great equipment yes 2205 01:32:31,700 --> 01:32:29,560 yeah yeah 2206 01:32:35,490 --> 01:32:31,710 I know I know if you use his equipment 2207 01:32:36,750 --> 01:32:35,500 right right I have to talk I was talking 2208 01:32:38,910 --> 01:32:36,760 to mark the other day I forgot to ask 2209 01:32:40,740 --> 01:32:38,920 him what their progress is on but they 2210 01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:40,750 had planned to put out these stations 2211 01:32:46,380 --> 01:32:43,330 everywhere in hot spots all over the 2212 01:32:47,159 --> 01:32:46,390 country in the US you know to play these 2213 01:32:49,259 --> 01:32:47,169 things 2214 01:32:52,109 --> 01:32:49,269 yeah it's a big project before you have 2215 01:32:54,899 --> 01:32:52,119 to before they started UFO data and UFO 2216 01:32:57,359 --> 01:32:54,909 talk I had that same idea that talked 2217 01:33:00,659 --> 01:32:57,369 about it for many years with a few 2218 01:33:03,089 --> 01:33:00,669 people it's just too much money I'd love 2219 01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:03,099 to do it it's expression places like 2220 01:33:08,879 --> 01:33:06,489 Vancouver which is a hotspot definitely 2221 01:33:10,979 --> 01:33:08,889 a hotspot and you just have to put it in 2222 01:33:13,859 --> 01:33:10,989 a couple areas and I guarantee we would 2223 01:33:17,790 --> 01:33:13,869 get data we would get more sightings on 2224 01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:17,800 a regular basis with 24/7 coverage with 2225 01:33:22,109 --> 01:33:19,449 different optical systems you know 2226 01:33:24,209 --> 01:33:22,119 including thermal and it's military 2227 01:33:25,949 --> 01:33:24,219 equipment that they have I mean some of 2228 01:33:30,330 --> 01:33:25,959 the equipment you can't buy as consumer 2229 01:33:33,509 --> 01:33:30,340 but you got your you know medium or long 2230 01:33:35,339 --> 01:33:33,519 wave infrared cameras with 30-mile range 2231 01:33:38,129 --> 01:33:35,349 and you can zip in zoom in on something 2232 01:33:39,330 --> 01:33:38,139 and get some really good definition you 2233 01:33:41,850 --> 01:33:39,340 know in the middle of the night I mean 2234 01:33:43,529 --> 01:33:41,860 it's incredible stuff so it's expensive 2235 01:33:45,899 --> 01:33:43,539 and you just don't want to put up just 2236 01:33:47,669 --> 01:33:45,909 regular cameras like a headstone does a 2237 01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:47,679 great job you know they did spend a lot 2238 01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:49,449 of money initially they put up some 2239 01:33:53,609 --> 01:33:51,489 security cameras in certain areas and 2240 01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:53,619 they captured some great material you 2241 01:33:58,169 --> 01:33:56,050 know but they had some great sightings 2242 01:34:00,929 --> 01:33:58,179 on a regular basis in their area in that 2243 01:34:02,489 --> 01:34:00,939 little valley but since then of course 2244 01:34:05,339 --> 01:34:02,499 those sightings have diminished 2245 01:34:07,020 --> 01:34:05,349 dramatically like here in Vancouver but 2246 01:34:10,229 --> 01:34:07,030 they're still there I know and they're 2247 01:34:12,719 --> 01:34:10,239 still capturing on objects in them and 2248 01:34:14,129 --> 01:34:12,729 Hezbollah but it's just a matter of 2249 01:34:16,709 --> 01:34:14,139 getting more people up there and getting 2250 01:34:18,569 --> 01:34:16,719 more equipment up up in the sky pointing 2251 01:34:20,669 --> 01:34:18,579 up in the sky as I would have one at 2252 01:34:21,839 --> 01:34:20,679 Cypress Mountain I would have one here 2253 01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:21,849 in the building at one of the 2254 01:34:29,100 --> 01:34:24,010 universities but we worked with the you 2255 01:34:31,049 --> 01:34:29,110 know the space the space department the 2256 01:34:33,509 --> 01:34:31,059 guys got the money for the telescopes 2257 01:34:34,889 --> 01:34:33,519 you know but it's just it's it's money 2258 01:34:38,549 --> 01:34:34,899 that's really holding a lot of this back 2259 01:34:39,419 --> 01:34:38,559 and yet a lot of us are you know we 2260 01:34:42,449 --> 01:34:39,429 learn as we go 2261 01:34:43,919 --> 01:34:42,459 you know I'm not a physics teacher or 2262 01:34:45,330 --> 01:34:43,929 anything like that I'm you know I do 2263 01:34:47,699 --> 01:34:45,340 astronomy I learned everything from 2264 01:34:50,639 --> 01:34:47,709 internet and I read a lot of books so 2265 01:34:52,889 --> 01:34:50,649 you know I don't have a PhD or anything 2266 01:34:55,009 --> 01:34:52,899 but I know a lot more than a lot of PhDs 2267 01:34:58,080 --> 01:34:55,019 because I do the long the sky watching 2268 01:34:59,759 --> 01:34:58,090 you know I got the experience of 2269 01:35:00,910 --> 01:34:59,769 actually filming these things I know how 2270 01:35:03,669 --> 01:35:00,920 to film I know where they go 2271 01:35:06,130 --> 01:35:03,679 know how they react and know the act so 2272 01:35:08,890 --> 01:35:06,140 I think knowing that is just getting the 2273 01:35:10,780 --> 01:35:08,900 next step is getting a budget yeah 2274 01:35:12,669 --> 01:35:10,790 Margit yep 2275 01:35:14,410 --> 01:35:12,679 that's always that that's always a tough 2276 01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:14,420 part none of the things I I don't know 2277 01:35:17,650 --> 01:35:15,770 if you've ever done this and this is 2278 01:35:21,729 --> 01:35:17,660 probably kind of a quirky thing for me 2279 01:35:24,850 --> 01:35:21,739 to say but I last summer I was like I 2280 01:35:26,709 --> 01:35:24,860 laid out on the my front lawn and I was 2281 01:35:29,500 --> 01:35:26,719 looking up at the stars and actually I 2282 01:35:32,830 --> 01:35:29,510 can see the Milky Way I'm up in Maine 2283 01:35:34,990 --> 01:35:32,840 and and I have little light pollution on 2284 01:35:37,270 --> 01:35:35,000 I'm on top of a mountain so I was 2285 01:35:39,100 --> 01:35:37,280 sitting there and I just wondered what 2286 01:35:41,110 --> 01:35:39,110 is the weirdest thing that has ever 2287 01:35:42,970 --> 01:35:41,120 flown over in my vision you know my 2288 01:35:45,220 --> 01:35:42,980 sight of you right now in the last 2289 01:35:46,930 --> 01:35:45,230 hundred years you know I don't know do 2290 01:35:48,790 --> 01:35:46,940 you ever think those type of thoughts or 2291 01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:48,800 am I just a weirdo 2292 01:35:54,010 --> 01:35:52,489 I know I was a kid when I got into stars 2293 01:35:55,930 --> 01:35:54,020 big-time at when I was like eight years 2294 01:35:57,820 --> 01:35:55,940 old I knew I want to get into astronomy 2295 01:36:00,090 --> 01:35:57,830 so any reason why I'm not an astronomer 2296 01:36:03,340 --> 01:36:00,100 today way too many years of schooling 2297 01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:03,350 and so I'm Jeff or Kenneth I want to 2298 01:36:07,300 --> 01:36:05,690 make money travel the world so I became 2299 01:36:08,979 --> 01:36:07,310 a nurse instead it was only a couple of 2300 01:36:11,020 --> 01:36:08,989 years a couple years University a couple 2301 01:36:13,709 --> 01:36:11,030 years in a nursing school go to travel 2302 01:36:16,300 --> 01:36:13,719 the world so for years I was done yeah 2303 01:36:17,860 --> 01:36:16,310 so I had passion for - you know helping 2304 01:36:20,470 --> 01:36:17,870 people and the Stars 2305 01:36:23,709 --> 01:36:20,480 love the stars so yeah I had those same 2306 01:36:24,850 --> 01:36:23,719 kind of thoughts back then and today you 2307 01:36:27,610 --> 01:36:24,860 know I don't have to think about I know 2308 01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:27,620 the strangest things I've seen I fly by 2309 01:36:31,810 --> 01:36:30,170 in the sky so yes you're not but you're 2310 01:36:33,370 --> 01:36:31,820 not the thing of it is you're not out 2311 01:36:36,130 --> 01:36:33,380 there all the time and you know you just 2312 01:36:38,050 --> 01:36:36,140 you can't be who can't who could be yeah 2313 01:36:41,110 --> 01:36:38,060 but I it just makes me wonder what all 2314 01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:41,120 the things we are missing so we have a 2315 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:43,370 question yeah we have a question came in 2316 01:36:47,890 --> 01:36:46,610 the chat room and this this person wants 2317 01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:47,900 to know his name's Wes wants to know 2318 01:36:56,650 --> 01:36:53,690 when he can add to his nikon dsr DSLR to 2319 01:36:58,120 --> 01:36:56,660 help see things that aren't normally 2320 01:37:00,729 --> 01:36:58,130 visible do you happen to know of any 2321 01:37:04,150 --> 01:37:00,739 type of other any attachments someone 2322 01:37:05,979 --> 01:37:04,160 can put well if it's a regular DSLR you 2323 01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:05,989 can't get infrared you can get infrared 2324 01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:09,050 lenses you'd have to if you want if 2325 01:37:14,740 --> 01:37:12,290 that's what he's asking for you can make 2326 01:37:15,100 --> 01:37:14,750 it into a night-vision device but it's 2327 01:37:18,399 --> 01:37:15,110 really 2328 01:37:20,580 --> 01:37:18,409 good for daytime and you basically you 2329 01:37:25,570 --> 01:37:20,590 got to bring it in and they remove the 2330 01:37:29,649 --> 01:37:25,580 the filter basically the whatchamacallit 2331 01:37:32,590 --> 01:37:29,659 oh my gosh it's a chip there it's a 2332 01:37:36,970 --> 01:37:32,600 little piece of plastic or glass 2333 01:37:38,470 --> 01:37:36,980 it's a prevent them CR if you know I 2334 01:37:40,689 --> 01:37:38,480 can't remember the name of it whatever 2335 01:37:42,070 --> 01:37:40,699 so yeah you get that removed for like 2336 01:37:43,419 --> 01:37:42,080 five hundred dollars a professional can 2337 01:37:45,609 --> 01:37:43,429 take it and then your camera now 2338 01:37:48,129 --> 01:37:45,619 actually is sensitive to the infrared 2339 01:37:49,450 --> 01:37:48,139 spectrum but it's not as powerful as a 2340 01:37:51,970 --> 01:37:49,460 night-vision device it's totally 2341 01:37:54,100 --> 01:37:51,980 different with the sensors their sense 2342 01:37:54,850 --> 01:37:54,110 of more nighttime I mean you can't use 2343 01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:54,860 it in the daytime 2344 01:37:58,479 --> 01:37:56,090 this is you're gonna use this in a 2345 01:38:00,550 --> 01:37:58,489 daytime then you would need the ND 2346 01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:00,560 filter if you're going to need to block 2347 01:38:05,590 --> 01:38:02,330 the light because it's gonna be really 2348 01:38:07,359 --> 01:38:05,600 really sensitive to visible light so if 2349 01:38:09,370 --> 01:38:07,369 that answers this question I think 2350 01:38:12,609 --> 01:38:09,380 that's probably all I can suggest with a 2351 01:38:14,620 --> 01:38:12,619 regular DSLR you can then customize it 2352 01:38:16,419 --> 01:38:14,630 but then remember after you do that you 2353 01:38:19,540 --> 01:38:16,429 can't take regular pictures with it 2354 01:38:21,609 --> 01:38:19,550 afterwards oh it's done it's only as 2355 01:38:22,990 --> 01:38:21,619 that one purpose yeah and has I want 2356 01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:23,000 purpose but some people like that 2357 01:38:26,649 --> 01:38:24,530 because you could take some nice 2358 01:38:28,689 --> 01:38:26,659 infrared photos and that's a new hobby 2359 01:38:32,910 --> 01:38:28,699 for a lot of people they take infrared 2360 01:38:35,830 --> 01:38:32,920 shots but for a night for for shooting 2361 01:38:37,870 --> 01:38:35,840 UFOs and you know in the infrared 2362 01:38:39,870 --> 01:38:37,880 spectrum you have to remove that filter 2363 01:38:44,399 --> 01:38:39,880 I forget what it's called again sorry 2364 01:38:46,990 --> 01:38:44,409 yeah ed long day today yeah yeah the 2365 01:38:50,379 --> 01:38:47,000 someone wants it happened to be at 2366 01:38:54,070 --> 01:38:50,389 Goddard Space Center a few years ago and 2367 01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:54,080 I I saw the James Webb telescope there 2368 01:38:59,020 --> 01:38:56,210 and people working on it was really cool 2369 01:39:01,240 --> 01:38:59,030 to see there and you know they have to 2370 01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:01,250 they're all dressed up and these I 2371 01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:02,810 forget what they're called non 2372 01:39:08,740 --> 01:39:05,330 contaminant suits and everything you 2373 01:39:11,169 --> 01:39:08,750 know in a in a protected space but the 2374 01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:11,179 thing is huge and someone in the chat 2375 01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:14,090 room wanted to know do you hold up much 2376 01:39:20,740 --> 01:39:16,610 hope for the James Webb telescope and 2377 01:39:22,689 --> 01:39:20,750 discovering ET no I don't know well yes 2378 01:39:25,899 --> 01:39:22,699 it turns of they're gonna find a planet 2379 01:39:28,570 --> 01:39:25,909 that's gonna be able to you know you 2380 01:39:31,100 --> 01:39:28,580 know they'll have life on it or you know 2381 01:39:32,780 --> 01:39:31,110 have life on it basically they'll be 2382 01:39:35,510 --> 01:39:32,790 trees maybe in water they might be able 2383 01:39:37,129 --> 01:39:35,520 to find out it's gonna detect h2o or or 2384 01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:37,139 something or another but they're not 2385 01:39:41,780 --> 01:39:39,210 gonna find et as an extraterrestrial as 2386 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:41,790 it what people are asking about alien 2387 01:39:44,689 --> 01:39:44,010 civilizations other why is it what I 2388 01:39:46,879 --> 01:39:44,699 found about it 2389 01:39:50,300 --> 01:39:46,889 yeah you probably have maybe not telling 2390 01:39:51,770 --> 01:39:50,310 us that's a possibility possibility I 2391 01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:51,780 think they will absolutely if they're 2392 01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:53,489 gonna find a planet that's going to be 2393 01:39:59,840 --> 01:39:56,639 able to have life on it for sure I think 2394 01:40:02,720 --> 01:39:59,850 so we're getting closer every day yeah I 2395 01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:02,730 do I think you know I mean I think we're 2396 01:40:07,610 --> 01:40:04,250 definitely headed in that direction 2397 01:40:09,740 --> 01:40:07,620 George wants to know what night vision 2398 01:40:11,780 --> 01:40:09,750 do you what type of night vision do you 2399 01:40:12,590 --> 01:40:11,790 recommend I know those are like vast 2400 01:40:15,979 --> 01:40:12,600 price range 2401 01:40:18,500 --> 01:40:15,989 again if you have lots of money to spend 2402 01:40:19,790 --> 01:40:18,510 get yourself a generation 3 there's many 2403 01:40:22,340 --> 01:40:19,800 companies out there they're all great 2404 01:40:24,890 --> 01:40:22,350 you get one with white phosphorus if is 2405 01:40:27,950 --> 01:40:24,900 generation 3 it's a it's very fairly new 2406 01:40:30,290 --> 01:40:27,960 or newish it's just more sensitive you 2407 01:40:32,390 --> 01:40:30,300 can see clearer with it I like them 2408 01:40:35,510 --> 01:40:32,400 better than the green background of the 2409 01:40:38,510 --> 01:40:35,520 night vision it's very sensitive you can 2410 01:40:40,129 --> 01:40:38,520 see deep in the night sky with that but 2411 01:40:41,270 --> 01:40:40,139 if you're in the city and you don't have 2412 01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:41,280 a lot of money which is the majority 2413 01:40:43,550 --> 01:40:42,480 that people don't want to spend a lot of 2414 01:40:45,620 --> 01:40:43,560 money they don't want to spend twenty 2415 01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:45,630 five hundred bucks or five print they 2416 01:40:49,310 --> 01:40:47,010 want to spend five hundred bucks or 2417 01:40:51,229 --> 01:40:49,320 seven hundred dollars maximum get a 2418 01:40:53,500 --> 01:40:51,239 digital night vision they're great they 2419 01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:53,510 work fine I use it that's all I use 2420 01:40:57,740 --> 01:40:55,530 because I'm again I'm in the city with 2421 01:41:00,200 --> 01:40:57,750 my light pollution it works really well 2422 01:41:02,990 --> 01:41:00,210 with light pollution it's called the 2423 01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:03,000 Luna optics I recommend that highly it's 2424 01:41:08,899 --> 01:41:05,570 because it's a colored night vision and 2425 01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:08,909 they really released a new one I'm 2426 01:41:13,010 --> 01:41:10,530 trialing it right now with the new 2427 01:41:15,950 --> 01:41:13,020 software on it it's actually works with 2428 01:41:18,410 --> 01:41:15,960 night vision and regular ISO you know 2429 01:41:20,090 --> 01:41:18,420 like you would have on your DSLR so you 2430 01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:20,100 can get more sensitivity and more gain 2431 01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:23,010 so you can either have it less powerful 2432 01:41:27,709 --> 01:41:24,449 for the city so you don't have all that 2433 01:41:30,140 --> 01:41:27,719 glare or you can get if you're out in 2434 01:41:31,610 --> 01:41:30,150 the woods or just dark dark outside and 2435 01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:31,620 it's just stars out there and you want a 2436 01:41:36,050 --> 01:41:33,690 really sensitive then you can up the ISO 2437 01:41:38,689 --> 01:41:36,060 to increase the sensitivity of the night 2438 01:41:40,820 --> 01:41:38,699 vision digital night vision so it's it's 2439 01:41:41,700 --> 01:41:40,830 good to be better again I've got a trial 2440 01:41:43,950 --> 01:41:41,710 at right now 2441 01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:43,960 so that's what I would recommend so Lou 2442 01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:45,970 the optics remember that it's digital 2443 01:41:49,770 --> 01:41:48,130 night vision it also records internally 2444 01:41:52,170 --> 01:41:49,780 so you want that as well because you 2445 01:41:53,730 --> 01:41:52,180 want to record video remember about 2446 01:41:56,670 --> 01:41:53,740 pictures I don't believe in pictures I 2447 01:41:58,470 --> 01:41:56,680 believe in video so the generation three 2448 01:41:59,700 --> 01:41:58,480 cameras you buy they're very expensive 2449 01:42:01,470 --> 01:41:59,710 but they are the best for when you're 2450 01:42:02,910 --> 01:42:01,480 out in the boondocks there and you can 2451 01:42:07,860 --> 01:42:02,920 capture a lot of things way out there 2452 01:42:10,230 --> 01:42:07,870 but you also need to get a certain set 2453 01:42:12,390 --> 01:42:10,240 up so you can film through the eyepiece 2454 01:42:15,030 --> 01:42:12,400 to get video because they don't have 2455 01:42:16,590 --> 01:42:15,040 internal video recording the digital 2456 01:42:19,470 --> 01:42:16,600 video of the digital night vision 2457 01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:19,480 devices they do and ilona optics is 2458 01:42:23,790 --> 01:42:21,010 probably one of the better ones because 2459 01:42:27,810 --> 01:42:23,800 it films an HD and that's another big 2460 01:42:30,300 --> 01:42:27,820 big big point there it's not 5 20 by 480 2461 01:42:32,370 --> 01:42:30,310 or whatever yeah so it's actually HD 2462 01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:32,380 it's a little noisy but if you have some 2463 01:42:34,740 --> 01:42:33,970 good editing software you can eliminate 2464 01:42:37,890 --> 01:42:34,750 a lot of it 2465 01:42:40,380 --> 01:42:37,900 so they're usually yeah great thank you 2466 01:42:42,090 --> 01:42:40,390 for that Kenneth wants to know if you've 2467 01:42:44,610 --> 01:42:42,100 ever had an experience and then blanked 2468 01:42:46,130 --> 01:42:44,620 it out in your mind and then all of a 2469 01:42:48,270 --> 01:42:46,140 sudden you remembered later 2470 01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:48,280 you know I it's a good very good 2471 01:42:51,390 --> 01:42:49,570 question because when I first started 2472 01:42:53,850 --> 01:42:51,400 doing this and I had that real close 2473 01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:53,860 encounter the first one the plasma orb I 2474 01:42:58,200 --> 01:42:56,170 had a lot of lucid dreams after that I 2475 01:42:59,700 --> 01:42:58,210 don't know if it was just my brain 2476 01:43:02,190 --> 01:42:59,710 thinking cuz this is my first UFO that 2477 01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:02,200 I've seen I cannot explain but I had 2478 01:43:06,630 --> 01:43:03,850 some weird things happen to me for the 2479 01:43:10,310 --> 01:43:06,640 first three months of my journey into 2480 01:43:12,690 --> 01:43:10,320 you know captian UFOs on film so 2481 01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:12,700 blocking something I don't think of 2482 01:43:16,950 --> 01:43:14,650 blocking it but I've had lucid dreams 2483 01:43:20,210 --> 01:43:16,960 weird dreams that I can't remember 2484 01:43:24,390 --> 01:43:20,220 so maybe yes it could be an answer to it 2485 01:43:26,070 --> 01:43:24,400 okay so we're taking someone just asked 2486 01:43:28,260 --> 01:43:26,080 them the message woman if they were out 2487 01:43:30,620 --> 01:43:28,270 of the country can they call and yes and 2488 01:43:33,270 --> 01:43:30,630 that would be one six zero three nine 2489 01:43:36,380 --> 01:43:33,280 six seven four 2490 01:43:39,030 --> 01:43:36,390 oh three oh if someone wants to call in 2491 01:43:41,820 --> 01:43:39,040 international or you cannot actually 2492 01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:41,830 Skype as well and if you'd like to Skype 2493 01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:46,090 in a simply marty willis ma RT y wi ll 2494 01:43:50,790 --> 01:43:48,970 is and don't call me Marty that was just 2495 01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:50,800 available that's the only reason I took 2496 01:44:00,210 --> 01:43:55,210 that really sorry I'm not talking to you 2497 01:44:03,210 --> 01:44:00,220 okay yeah so as far as you you have a 2498 01:44:04,890 --> 01:44:03,220 ton of money invested and would you if 2499 01:44:06,300 --> 01:44:04,900 you had to start all over again would 2500 01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:06,310 you do something different or do you 2501 01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:16,950 yeah initially yes I would have but what 2502 01:44:19,950 --> 01:44:18,610 I have now initially rather than buying 2503 01:44:21,270 --> 01:44:19,960 some other stuff that I did in they're 2504 01:44:23,850 --> 01:44:21,280 gone now are sold have lost a lot of 2505 01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:23,860 money on that didn't work for me 2506 01:44:29,550 --> 01:44:27,010 I was trial and error so yeah I mean I 2507 01:44:32,460 --> 01:44:29,560 probably would have had this as much 2508 01:44:34,290 --> 01:44:32,470 today if I would what I know today if I 2509 01:44:35,940 --> 01:44:34,300 would have started probably that's why 2510 01:44:37,950 --> 01:44:35,950 I'm giving my experience out to 2511 01:44:40,710 --> 01:44:37,960 everybody out there what they get it's 2512 01:44:43,470 --> 01:44:40,720 my experience on I've had eight years of 2513 01:44:45,330 --> 01:44:43,480 it it works you see my videos watch my 2514 01:44:45,660 --> 01:44:45,340 documentary if you haven't it's the real 2515 01:44:47,820 --> 01:44:45,670 thing 2516 01:44:49,290 --> 01:44:47,830 they're not fake videos they're not 2517 01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:49,300 mundane some people might think that 2518 01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:50,770 even work don't own you might think it 2519 01:44:53,970 --> 01:44:53,530 might not be the real thing I know it's 2520 01:44:55,950 --> 01:44:53,980 the real thing 2521 01:44:57,810 --> 01:44:55,960 maybe some of them might not be I still 2522 01:45:00,180 --> 01:44:57,820 you know there's a couple of videos I 2523 01:45:03,510 --> 01:45:00,190 have on YouTube channel I'm still not 2524 01:45:05,610 --> 01:45:03,520 sure about it could be a bat or it could 2525 01:45:07,410 --> 01:45:05,620 be a satellite for sure I've taken a lot 2526 01:45:09,440 --> 01:45:07,420 of sound bites off my youtube channel I 2527 01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:09,450 figured out there were satellites but 2528 01:45:13,590 --> 01:45:11,770 majority of the ones especially the ones 2529 01:45:16,110 --> 01:45:13,600 I might you have my documentary those 2530 01:45:18,930 --> 01:45:16,120 are real man there's nothing I can think 2531 01:45:21,480 --> 01:45:18,940 of that a mundane expression with that 2532 01:45:25,020 --> 01:45:21,490 blue orb that came ten feet from me that 2533 01:45:27,060 --> 01:45:25,030 that was real what is that if that was 2534 01:45:28,980 --> 01:45:27,070 real what I'm filming is the same thing 2535 01:45:30,480 --> 01:45:28,990 you know it just further away in there 2536 01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:30,490 different colors I've seen oh the 2537 01:45:36,150 --> 01:45:33,130 rainbow there's orange ever whites blue 2538 01:45:38,550 --> 01:45:36,160 and silver bright silver over the phone 2539 01:45:39,900 --> 01:45:38,560 with the Sun gleaming and turning black 2540 01:45:42,450 --> 01:45:39,910 and it's it can you straight up in the 2541 01:45:44,250 --> 01:45:42,460 sky it was one of my visual ones I saw 2542 01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:44,260 it the naked eye and my brother saw that 2543 01:45:48,570 --> 01:45:46,210 one I saw one at the fireworks 2544 01:45:49,710 --> 01:45:48,580 it was orange going to read it from all 2545 01:45:52,140 --> 01:45:49,720 the different colors of the fireworks 2546 01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:52,150 display bouncing up and down like maybe 2547 01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:54,010 two or three thousand feet up and about 2548 01:45:58,140 --> 01:45:56,290 a mile out from the fireworks display no 2549 01:46:01,170 --> 01:45:58,150 drones back there this is back in 2012 2550 01:46:03,330 --> 01:46:01,180 go up and down just like my blue orb was 2551 01:46:05,580 --> 01:46:03,340 doing but I go way up and down changing 2552 01:46:08,130 --> 01:46:05,590 colors with the fireworks a dead at the 2553 01:46:08,770 --> 01:46:08,140 same time it was amazing so my brother 2554 01:46:13,629 --> 01:46:08,780 my 2555 01:46:15,430 --> 01:46:13,639 just looking at at the org we were 2556 01:46:17,770 --> 01:46:15,440 missing the whole fireworks display it 2557 01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:17,780 was pretty amazing there's so many 2558 01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:20,090 people that have claimed that they've 2559 01:46:27,010 --> 01:46:23,690 seen you know they've seen during 2560 01:46:29,859 --> 01:46:27,020 fireworks they've seen sightings yeah 2561 01:46:33,609 --> 01:46:29,869 yeah yeah yeah they do show up there's 2562 01:46:34,899 --> 01:46:33,619 no doubt about it a lot majority of the 2563 01:46:37,569 --> 01:46:34,909 people are seeing your filtered 2564 01:46:41,020 --> 01:46:37,579 fireworks though I must say I can't say 2565 01:46:42,580 --> 01:46:41,030 every specific one but majority are 2566 01:46:43,810 --> 01:46:42,590 probably seeing Chinese lanterns because 2567 01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:43,820 they've never seen one before journal 2568 01:46:48,939 --> 01:46:46,730 fires for our fireworks display love lot 2569 01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:48,949 of lanterns I shot up at that time yes 2570 01:46:53,410 --> 01:46:51,530 the sprayer works yeah when you see you 2571 01:46:56,109 --> 01:46:53,420 in org where you fold you'll know for 2572 01:46:57,669 --> 01:46:56,119 sure you won't question it it's a UFO 2573 01:47:01,120 --> 01:46:57,679 it's not gonna look like anything else 2574 01:47:02,620 --> 01:47:01,130 you've seen before right Chinese lantern 2575 01:47:04,450 --> 01:47:02,630 before will them and that will look like 2576 01:47:07,540 --> 01:47:04,460 something you've never seen before but 2577 01:47:10,149 --> 01:47:07,550 you got to get the experience watch 2578 01:47:11,350 --> 01:47:10,159 those things look what other Chinese 2579 01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:11,360 lantern looks like with the naked eye 2580 01:47:16,060 --> 01:47:13,610 for the first time look what a satellite 2581 01:47:17,979 --> 01:47:16,070 an Iridium flares like with the naked 2582 01:47:20,350 --> 01:47:17,989 eye look what the ISS looks like with 2583 01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:20,360 the naked eye do all these things that 2584 01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:24,050 are mundane get that experience then if 2585 01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:25,489 you see something that's different than 2586 01:47:29,740 --> 01:47:27,530 any of those things that really stand 2587 01:47:31,779 --> 01:47:29,750 out that blows from your mind that 2588 01:47:33,819 --> 01:47:31,789 really blows your hair back like wow 2589 01:47:35,950 --> 01:47:33,829 then you know that you've seen something 2590 01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:35,960 that's not mundane it's not it's a real 2591 01:47:40,959 --> 01:47:37,730 thing it's really awful that's what 2592 01:47:42,549 --> 01:47:40,969 happened to me I've just banter in the 2593 01:47:45,399 --> 01:47:42,559 chat room wants to know if you're 2594 01:47:46,089 --> 01:47:45,409 familiar with a fellow Canadian Dorothy 2595 01:47:49,660 --> 01:47:46,099 izzat's 2596 01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:49,670 yes photography yes yeah I don't know 2597 01:47:54,189 --> 01:47:50,650 what she felt 2598 01:47:56,500 --> 01:47:54,199 is she filming or photography yes 2599 01:47:58,959 --> 01:47:56,510 filming she had old and old he I think 2600 01:48:01,450 --> 01:47:58,969 was an old 8 millimeter video camera but 2601 01:48:03,339 --> 01:48:01,460 sure I think that's what it was I don't 2602 01:48:05,379 --> 01:48:03,349 know a lot of people saying that what 2603 01:48:07,839 --> 01:48:05,389 was she was filming was light leaks from 2604 01:48:09,609 --> 01:48:07,849 an old one of the old cameras they can 2605 01:48:11,620 --> 01:48:09,619 get light leaks and that's the reason 2606 01:48:13,180 --> 01:48:11,630 for it but I don't know she was showing 2607 01:48:16,140 --> 01:48:13,190 some amazing things I mean it was a lot 2608 01:48:17,700 --> 01:48:16,150 of colors and everything but you know I 2609 01:48:19,899 --> 01:48:17,710 don't know I 2610 01:48:21,580 --> 01:48:19,909 I've never seen anything like it myself 2611 01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:21,590 personally 2612 01:48:26,700 --> 01:48:23,690 but I've never had an older camera like 2613 01:48:30,609 --> 01:48:26,710 that filming at my orbs so I don't know 2614 01:48:33,220 --> 01:48:30,619 if it's legit or not again this could be 2615 01:48:35,459 --> 01:48:33,230 misidentification from a camera that's 2616 01:48:37,570 --> 01:48:35,469 got some issues back in those days I 2617 01:48:40,209 --> 01:48:37,580 think it's real I think she was feeling 2618 01:48:42,609 --> 01:48:40,219 something that's a unique and she's from 2619 01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:42,619 this part of town part of the area 2620 01:48:47,229 --> 01:48:45,170 I see and now when you've used your 2621 01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:47,239 laser have you ever not been able to 2622 01:48:51,879 --> 01:48:49,730 actually locate something with your 2623 01:48:56,620 --> 01:48:51,889 laser or do you always seem to land on 2624 01:48:58,839 --> 01:48:56,630 it oh no my laser was just for getting 2625 01:49:02,260 --> 01:48:58,849 their attention and see if it would get 2626 01:49:05,550 --> 01:49:02,270 their attention only time I really did 2627 01:49:08,169 --> 01:49:05,560 land on something was that one that that 2628 01:49:10,540 --> 01:49:08,179 flared up but people think that might be 2629 01:49:13,540 --> 01:49:10,550 Iridium flare satellite which I still 2630 01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:13,550 think it's not and the orb they which I 2631 01:49:19,390 --> 01:49:15,770 call orb games again I it's none of my 2632 01:49:20,859 --> 01:49:19,400 Phil that's on my youtube channel that 2633 01:49:22,570 --> 01:49:20,869 was an accident this thing was trying to 2634 01:49:24,609 --> 01:49:22,580 avoid my laser I was trying to 2635 01:49:26,350 --> 01:49:24,619 everything try to hit it this thing was 2636 01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:26,360 amazing and it was infrared it was 2637 01:49:32,229 --> 01:49:28,730 invisible and this little Donald light 2638 01:49:34,990 --> 01:49:32,239 saw it and it's not a bat because bats 2639 01:49:38,109 --> 01:49:35,000 can't see in infrared light unless they 2640 01:49:39,430 --> 01:49:38,119 see it no let's think of my son I think 2641 01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:39,440 they couldn't they could have seen it 2642 01:49:43,689 --> 01:49:42,050 so it was an orb and I hit it was an 2643 01:49:46,540 --> 01:49:43,699 accident hitting it I could believe a 2644 01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:46,550 hit it boom so no it's unusual thing we 2645 01:49:50,379 --> 01:49:48,650 hit something with my my lasers I don't 2646 01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:50,389 usually anymore because first of all 2647 01:49:56,050 --> 01:49:54,290 it's broken and the only laser I have 2648 01:49:59,320 --> 01:49:56,060 right now is a very powerful one watt 2649 01:50:01,839 --> 01:49:59,330 colored dangerous laser which is against 2650 01:50:04,450 --> 01:50:01,849 the law you do not want to use them yeah 2651 01:50:07,270 --> 01:50:04,460 if you hit an airline with it yeah it's 2652 01:50:09,220 --> 01:50:07,280 do not use I use scar watching if you 2653 01:50:11,649 --> 01:50:09,230 want to use lasers for scar watching get 2654 01:50:13,660 --> 01:50:11,659 it infrared one did you can't see with 2655 01:50:15,490 --> 01:50:13,670 the naked eye yeah are very dangerous 2656 01:50:17,620 --> 01:50:15,500 yeah that makes that makes a lot of 2657 01:50:19,330 --> 01:50:17,630 sense to do that now what about the 2658 01:50:21,189 --> 01:50:19,340 ridicule factor you always hear about 2659 01:50:23,350 --> 01:50:21,199 that have you suffered any of that 2660 01:50:26,530 --> 01:50:23,360 absolutely oh really 2661 01:50:29,109 --> 01:50:26,540 and I from colleagues from who how's 2662 01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:29,119 that happen yeah most my company knows 2663 01:50:34,450 --> 01:50:31,730 what I do majority of them now believe 2664 01:50:35,450 --> 01:50:34,460 what I do Israel at the beginning 2665 01:50:37,310 --> 01:50:35,460 they're making jokes my 2666 01:50:40,310 --> 01:50:37,320 Hostel jokes around with it but I think 2667 01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:40,320 inside she believes it a lot of them are 2668 01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:42,330 skeptics like everybody else like any 2669 01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:47,130 well in population but they don't 2670 01:50:51,709 --> 01:50:49,250 ridicule me as like they did before but 2671 01:50:53,390 --> 01:50:51,719 I'm still single how you have what do 2672 01:50:56,420 --> 01:50:53,400 you think you know it's not something 2673 01:50:59,300 --> 01:50:56,430 you bring up in your first date as I had 2674 01:51:00,380 --> 01:50:59,310 to do that it hey buddy if you see my 2675 01:51:10,370 --> 01:51:00,390 videos of UFOs 2676 01:51:12,050 --> 01:51:10,380 no she goes yeah it happens but it's for 2677 01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:12,060 me it's worth it if I never had that a 2678 01:51:17,090 --> 01:51:14,489 first experience man sometimes regret 2679 01:51:20,540 --> 01:51:17,100 having it because I've had some hardship 2680 01:51:22,010 --> 01:51:20,550 over the years but it's totally worth it 2681 01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:22,020 to what I've seen and experienced today 2682 01:51:26,810 --> 01:51:24,930 it has all been positive only one time I 2683 01:51:29,030 --> 01:51:26,820 was I was scared on fire personal safe 2684 01:51:30,979 --> 01:51:29,040 because it was big it was a big three 2685 01:51:32,630 --> 01:51:30,989 big objects that I had never seen before 2686 01:51:35,390 --> 01:51:32,640 so I just got scared 2687 01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:35,400 but it did threaten me at all and none 2688 01:51:39,229 --> 01:51:37,050 of these things threaten me I felt the 2689 01:51:41,510 --> 01:51:39,239 presence on everyone that's gotten close 2690 01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:41,520 to me and I've had four comfortable five 2691 01:51:46,790 --> 01:51:44,730 to ten feet for me I mean I think 2692 01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:46,800 there's an Italian just back behind them 2693 01:51:51,890 --> 01:51:50,250 well you're not the first astronomer 2694 01:51:54,620 --> 01:51:51,900 that's had a sighting as a matter of 2695 01:51:57,530 --> 01:51:54,630 fact there's there's an article on open 2696 01:52:00,440 --> 01:51:57,540 minds that Alejandro Ross wrote years 2697 01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:00,450 ago about how many astronomers actually 2698 01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:03,650 have seen UFOs and amateur astronomers 2699 01:52:09,350 --> 01:52:07,050 you know I had I had one on this show he 2700 01:52:12,860 --> 01:52:09,360 was a regular on the show unfortunately 2701 01:52:15,860 --> 01:52:12,870 passed away but Andi contacted me say 2702 01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:15,870 four or five years ago and he said all 2703 01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:18,330 this you hear about astronomers not 2704 01:52:23,150 --> 01:52:21,330 seeing UFOs and he told his story he was 2705 01:52:25,190 --> 01:52:23,160 bringing his telescope in for the night 2706 01:52:27,170 --> 01:52:25,200 and all of a sudden something just 2707 01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:27,180 blacked out the cloud I mean the stars 2708 01:52:33,709 --> 01:52:29,250 up above him and it was a huge black 2709 01:52:35,570 --> 01:52:33,719 triangle yeah sound yeah no son over his 2710 01:52:37,850 --> 01:52:35,580 head I happened to a friend of mine 2711 01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:37,860 actually she's no longer around either 2712 01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:40,370 she's passed away two years ago she 2713 01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:44,010 nothing about UFOs until I told her what 2714 01:52:48,440 --> 01:52:46,170 I did about UFOs she goes no way you 2715 01:52:49,010 --> 01:52:48,450 believe in UFOs I didn't tell anybody is 2716 01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:49,020 she 2717 01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:51,090 her story this is inverted e this is 2718 01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:53,250 about four miles from me 2719 01:52:57,170 --> 01:52:54,810 she was under balcony having a cigarette 2720 01:52:59,000 --> 01:52:57,180 and she was looking up at the stars and 2721 01:53:00,080 --> 01:52:59,010 there's one area that was blocked out 2722 01:53:03,230 --> 01:53:00,090 from the stars she thought was the 2723 01:53:04,790 --> 01:53:03,240 clouds but then she looked closer it was 2724 01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:04,800 really low she said it could have been 2725 01:53:08,990 --> 01:53:06,570 more than a thousand feet above the 2726 01:53:09,410 --> 01:53:09,000 building's going towards where I live 2727 01:53:11,030 --> 01:53:09,420 right 2728 01:53:13,670 --> 01:53:11,040 Burnaby is over there and going to the 2729 01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:13,680 going to the southwest and she sought 2730 01:53:17,480 --> 01:53:15,570 and if their naked eye it blocked all 2731 01:53:20,210 --> 01:53:17,490 the stars and she looked from the circus 2732 01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:20,220 Alberta B is not out as much light 2733 01:53:26,030 --> 01:53:22,770 pollution so you got a lot more stars so 2734 01:53:27,740 --> 01:53:26,040 she made the she could tell it was being 2735 01:53:30,740 --> 01:53:27,750 a it was a triangle but there's no 2736 01:53:32,420 --> 01:53:30,750 lights at all but she saw the color of 2737 01:53:36,830 --> 01:53:32,430 the object itself was like a gunmetal 2738 01:53:39,140 --> 01:53:36,840 and land and it was it was rough rough 2739 01:53:41,270 --> 01:53:39,150 edges to it and the size of a football 2740 01:53:43,070 --> 01:53:41,280 field she said and she would never lie 2741 01:53:44,540 --> 01:53:43,080 or make up a story like this she doesn't 2742 01:53:47,390 --> 01:53:44,550 have an internet didn't have a computer 2743 01:53:48,830 --> 01:53:47,400 and she has basic cable and she doesn't 2744 01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:48,840 have ancient aliens or anything like 2745 01:53:52,940 --> 01:53:50,370 that she doesn't believe in anything I'd 2746 01:53:54,530 --> 01:53:52,950 like that so that's a credible credible 2747 01:53:57,020 --> 01:53:54,540 sighting I know her personally she's 2748 01:53:59,630 --> 01:53:57,030 passed away now just before putting up a 2749 01:54:02,630 --> 01:53:59,640 security camera at her house she passed 2750 01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:02,640 away when I want to capture that that 2751 01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:05,370 was a basic sighting yeah you know I 2752 01:54:09,610 --> 01:54:06,930 love the stories that come from people 2753 01:54:11,420 --> 01:54:09,620 that are you know like a one-time 2754 01:54:13,580 --> 01:54:11,430 sighting they never really thought much 2755 01:54:16,370 --> 01:54:13,590 about it or anything like that those 2756 01:54:18,620 --> 01:54:16,380 stories are always so interesting and 2757 01:54:20,210 --> 01:54:18,630 refreshing especially when the people 2758 01:54:23,420 --> 01:54:20,220 are saying exactly the same thing that 2759 01:54:24,950 --> 01:54:23,430 other people have seen yeah exactly just 2760 01:54:26,570 --> 01:54:24,960 like you said the gunmetal you know 2761 01:54:28,550 --> 01:54:26,580 you've heard that a whole bunch of times 2762 01:54:31,630 --> 01:54:28,560 a number of times you hear there's never 2763 01:54:34,010 --> 01:54:31,640 any lights and it's always no sound yeah 2764 01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:34,020 just traveling really slow and it's 2765 01:54:38,930 --> 01:54:36,930 trying going towards the ocean and you 2766 01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:38,940 know blocking out the stars that's how 2767 01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:40,650 she is she picked it out otherwise she 2768 01:54:44,900 --> 01:54:42,810 would never have noticed it yeah and 2769 01:54:46,910 --> 01:54:44,910 that's way out there every starry night 2770 01:54:48,410 --> 01:54:46,920 don't want to see that well you 2771 01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:48,420 mentioned you mentioned that you've 2772 01:54:53,270 --> 01:54:50,130 never really been scared or anything 2773 01:54:55,490 --> 01:54:53,280 like that but I'm you know a lot of 2774 01:54:57,950 --> 01:54:55,500 people do get scared now did she mention 2775 01:55:00,890 --> 01:54:57,960 anything about that in particular not at 2776 01:55:02,510 --> 01:55:00,900 all yeah no no no she wasn't scared at 2777 01:55:05,150 --> 01:55:02,520 all she just was amazed that 2778 01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:05,160 yeah something that big making no noise 2779 01:55:10,460 --> 01:55:08,490 at all uh uh didn't know what it was is 2780 01:55:12,980 --> 01:55:10,470 she new of course people talk about UFOs 2781 01:55:16,550 --> 01:55:12,990 it was a UFO she told no one except for 2782 01:55:19,370 --> 01:55:16,560 me so that was very interesting yeah 2783 01:55:23,660 --> 01:55:19,380 yeah that's very much well we only have 2784 01:55:26,260 --> 01:55:23,670 a couple minutes left here and we have I 2785 01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:26,270 guess we can close the show with 2786 01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:28,890 basically if there's any advice you can 2787 01:55:33,170 --> 01:55:31,290 give someone that's just starting out 2788 01:55:36,730 --> 01:55:33,180 there that I know you're going to be 2789 01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:36,740 creating a website to help people oh 2790 01:55:40,250 --> 01:55:38,370 it's there now 2791 01:55:41,570 --> 01:55:40,260 that's just dedicated they can go there 2792 01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:41,580 there's some resources there now it's 2793 01:55:46,610 --> 01:55:44,970 mostly some photos of me and photos like 2794 01:55:50,870 --> 01:55:46,620 taking cuz I do photography as well and 2795 01:55:53,930 --> 01:55:50,880 I got a couple of my top UFO videos on 2796 01:55:56,870 --> 01:55:53,940 there as well as some resources for what 2797 01:55:59,180 --> 01:55:56,880 you want to use for your first time sky 2798 01:56:04,340 --> 01:55:59,190 watching so but basically I'm gonna have 2799 01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:04,350 videos how-to so that's coming yeah yeah 2800 01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:08,370 great do you have like any advice for 2801 01:56:14,030 --> 01:56:10,650 anyone though out there that's you know 2802 01:56:15,770 --> 01:56:14,040 they they want to get started or or you 2803 01:56:17,690 --> 01:56:15,780 know just a simple way to get started 2804 01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:17,700 yeah and then really nothing doesn't 2805 01:56:21,260 --> 01:56:18,930 cost you anything if you want to get 2806 01:56:24,020 --> 01:56:21,270 started you want to see you UFO and you 2807 01:56:26,030 --> 01:56:24,030 will see you off your patient simple 2808 01:56:29,270 --> 01:56:26,040 thing is you just gotta look up number 2809 01:56:31,070 --> 01:56:29,280 one 99% of the population don't look up 2810 01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:31,080 in the sky except if they're just 2811 01:56:34,850 --> 01:56:33,930 sitting down out camping and they'll 2812 01:56:36,260 --> 01:56:34,860 look up that's where you get a lot more 2813 01:56:37,940 --> 01:56:36,270 sightings in the summertime people are 2814 01:56:40,730 --> 01:56:37,950 vacationing there I was looking up at 2815 01:56:43,010 --> 01:56:40,740 the nice beautiful outside skies and 2816 01:56:46,220 --> 01:56:43,020 boom you look at the stars get a camera 2817 01:56:48,140 --> 01:56:46,230 get video for sure so if you just don't 2818 01:56:50,390 --> 01:56:48,150 have the money but you have enough money 2819 01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:50,400 get binoculars because really you want 2820 01:56:55,460 --> 01:56:53,730 to get science for yourself I'm kind of 2821 01:56:58,160 --> 01:56:55,470 it selfish because I want you to take 2822 01:56:59,420 --> 01:56:58,170 video because I want your data I want to 2823 01:57:01,760 --> 01:56:59,430 see what you're capturing because every 2824 01:57:04,010 --> 01:57:01,770 bit of the UFO capture with their 2825 01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:04,020 behavior helps us with the data showing 2826 01:57:07,580 --> 01:57:05,610 what this could be where you're filming 2827 01:57:09,830 --> 01:57:07,590 it from and does all this information we 2828 01:57:11,270 --> 01:57:09,840 can get from videos you know believe it 2829 01:57:14,570 --> 01:57:11,280 or not that's how you first start with 2830 01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:14,580 science you know doing science research 2831 01:57:19,190 --> 01:57:16,410 is observation right 2832 01:57:20,300 --> 01:57:19,200 so so just getting started get yourself 2833 01:57:23,180 --> 01:57:20,310 you know you got your camera in your 2834 01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:23,190 pocket look up and it's all about timing 2835 01:57:27,890 --> 01:57:26,370 I mean yes for sure binoculars but if 2836 01:57:30,260 --> 01:57:27,900 you're really serious about a get night 2837 01:57:32,270 --> 01:57:30,270 vision get a digital night vision it's 2838 01:57:34,340 --> 01:57:32,280 not expensive I mean there's not only 2839 01:57:37,310 --> 01:57:34,350 little optics that's my preferred one 2840 01:57:39,530 --> 01:57:37,320 because it's colored I'm fishing but 2841 01:57:42,140 --> 01:57:39,540 there's Yukon Yukon Ranger it's a little 2842 01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:42,150 less expensive there's a few other ones 2843 01:57:45,590 --> 01:57:43,650 out there their generation to type 2844 01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:45,600 digital night vision and they will also 2845 01:57:48,530 --> 01:57:48,210 record internally if you have that kind 2846 01:57:50,210 --> 01:57:48,540 of money 2847 01:57:51,790 --> 01:57:50,220 I recommend that because you can use it 2848 01:57:54,290 --> 01:57:51,800 in the daytime and at night time 2849 01:57:56,060 --> 01:57:54,300 excellent well Charles thank you so much 2850 01:57:59,120 --> 01:57:56,070 and people can contact you on your 2851 01:58:01,640 --> 01:57:59,130 website easy absolutely a seven-day 2852 01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:01,650 silks yeah and Facebook and my name 2853 01:58:04,700 --> 01:58:02,970 charles lamoureux him all over the 2854 01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:04,710 attendee could find me and if they want 2855 01:58:08,750 --> 01:58:06,450 to watch my film nocturnal lights that'd 2856 01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:08,760 be great because you can learn a lot 2857 01:58:12,830 --> 01:58:10,530 from that film and I know you have it's 2858 01:58:15,050 --> 01:58:12,840 it gives a lot of information and people 2859 01:58:16,270 --> 01:58:15,060 who interview they have a lot of 2860 01:58:19,370 --> 01:58:16,280 resources to give as well right so 2861 01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:19,380 that's right and that's a the link to 2862 01:58:21,710 --> 01:58:20,730 that is right in our show notes that 2863 01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:21,720 podcast UFO 2864 01:58:25,190 --> 01:58:23,610 thanks a lot Charles awesome thank you 2865 01:58:29,270 --> 01:58:25,200 all right good night now 2866 01:58:33,170 --> 01:58:29,280 okay alright so that is it for our show 2867 01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:33,180 thank you so much for either supporting 2868 01:58:39,410 --> 01:58:37,050 our show or watching it live or being on 2869 01:58:42,110 --> 01:58:39,420 the Dark Matter digital network we'll be 2870 01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:42,120 back next week with a repeat guest Linda 2871 01:58:46,430 --> 01:58:45,210 Zimmerman now Linda is going it's one of 2872 01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:46,440 going to be one of my shows where I'm 2873 01:58:51,350 --> 01:58:47,730 going to be talking about variable 2874 01:58:53,900 --> 01:58:51,360 topics not just the UFO topic linda is 2875 01:58:55,250 --> 01:58:53,910 also a UFO researcher of course but 2876 01:58:59,330 --> 01:58:55,260 we're going to be talking about her 2877 01:59:02,150 --> 01:58:59,340 research in ghosts and UFOs so that 2878 01:59:05,090 --> 01:59:02,160 should be interesting so thanks so much 2879 01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:05,100 everyone and remember to keep your eyes